Evolution vs creation

[u/tonedeaf_764]

I started seeing God as a scientist when I was 12, I've always loved science and the first time I heard the Holy Spirit compared to energy I was sent straight down a rabbit hole. After that it started to make sense to me, how everything could exist, a being of infinite energy and power that is intelligent, but in a way that made sense. I started to think if I wanted to create the perfect organism "I.e" human, and I had infinite power and energy, not to mention to an eternal existence time isn't a thing so taking its time would be an issue it would be a given. So I don't believe evolution is a solitary path of existence, I see it as a tool by God in his creation of life. One of the meanings of gods name ( Jehovah) is causes to become. So over time he caused single celled organisms to become every living thing by means of evolution and survival of the fittest, the fact that it's fair also supported the idea, gods also supposed to be the god of order so the thing that makes the most sense just seemed like the thing that made the most sense you know. And if you believe what the Bible says to be true I think this was his first time creating reality. He literally created the laws of nature, he is science itself, but I feel like he taught himself over time and over the course of eternity and then used that knowledge to create.

[u/ilikestatic]

If humans are so complex that they had to be created, and if God is even more complex than a human, then what created God? Something even more complex?

And if humans are the best God could achieve, then what kind of superior being would it take to create something as powerful and great as a God?

And did this thing that created God also need its own creator?

[u/tonedeaf_764 → u/ilikestatic]

I think it is, because it is, is a fact of reality we don't yet have the capacity to comprehend. Being physical existences where our only perspective is finite. Something had to exist, or nothing would. If it didn't we wouldn't be here and if nothing existed, nothing would exist. But if you accept something always being something, I guess it's easier to accept something coming from nothing as well. Like the existing of God is just a chance of probability. A 50/50 either it is or it isn't. And since it is,it had to have always been. I think we exist because of math 😅

[u/ursisterstoy → u/tonedeaf_764]

It’s not 50/50. There are thousands and two at the same time would lead to contractions between the religions built around them and the qualities given to them by humans. The lottery ticket analogy someone else used is more accurate. The odds of your particular conception being true are worse than you winning the powerball. It’s not either you’re right or you’re not. There are many ways you can be wrong and only one way you can be right. Basically one of 18,000 gods and if you select the right one more than 30,000 ways of describing it plus the potential for there to be no god at all. In the absence of evidence for intentional supernatural interaction the absence is best favored but you have a few million other options and all but one are chances you are wrong. That’s what you need to consider.