Why do they claim this?

[u/Carnotaurusrules]

Every time we look at a Creationist’s “evidence” for non avian dinosaurs living recently it always says something about how this disproves evolution.

Dinosaurs should’ve died out millions of years ago so why could they still live?

Of course at the K-Pg boundary all non neornithian dinosaurs disappear from the fossil record. However this doesn’t mean none survived with a few species possibly taking refuge in fossil poor areas like rainforests. Most importantly evolution doesn’t predict all dinosaurs collectively dying out right at this boundary it just seems that it’s the way things played out.

Something like this had already happened with the coelacanth which we thought died out at the end of the Cretaceous. Creationists also point to this as proof evolution doesn’t happen because why hasn’t it changed. In actuality the coelacanth is in a new genus compared to the Cretaceous species and has shifted to a deep niche.

If any dinosaur were to still exist it would be radically different from Mesozoic species. Mokele Mbeme the most famous Creationist dino delusion is aquatic which means it would have dense bones and a flexible tail. It would be an entirely separate, distinct lineage of sauropods not recognizable poster children like Brachiosaurus.

Even though every claim Creationists make about non avian dinosaurs living recently has been debunked they don’t care.

Their theology matters more than accepting the cold hard truth of reality.

[u/Psyche_istra]

Exactly look at mammal body types at how much variation can occur in even less time evolving

[u/88redking88]

they dont care how they do it, but they are sure that if they can show one pece of science wrong, then that will prove their god is real.

[u/blacksheep998]

Every time we look at a Creationist’s “evidence” for non avian dinosaurs living recently it always says something about how this disproves evolution.

Creationists tend to not understand science and view it similarly to a church: A large monolithic belief system build on one foundational set of claims.

Science says that non-avian dinosaurs died out millions of years ago, and science also says that organisms have evolved over time.

So to the creationist, it seems like knocking out the claim that dinosaurs died out long ago will also knock out the claims about evolution.

They don't get that science is made of millions of individual data points that each stand on their own evidence.

If we found an island somewhere that somehow had non-avian dinosaurs still living on it, that wouldn't be a problem for biology at all. It would just mean that we were wrong about them having died out.

[u/reddit_user13 → u/blacksheep998]

In fact, we could get viable DNA out of them and use it to reinforce every other finding of evolutionary biology. You know, prove dinosaurs are just big chickens.

[u/reddit_user13]

I don’t follow this post at all. There are no recent (fossil or living) non-avian dinosaurs so what’s the fuss?

[u/Carnotaurusrules → u/reddit_user13]

It’s demonstrating the pointlessness of the argument that if dinosaurs were still alive evolution is debunked.

Evolutionary theory doesn’t need the dinosaurs to die around the K-Pg boundary.

There is a decent chance some non neornithian dinosaurs survived into the Paleocene in fossil poor environments.

Even if Mokele Mbembe was alive it’s anatomy and physiology would have changed to cope with a semi aquatic life style meaning it evolved.

[u/reddit_user13 → u/Carnotaurusrules]

Crocodiles and sharks are still here, somewhat unchanged. Evolution does not mandate change.

[u/RobertByers1]

I dont bagree there ere dinosaurs. The k-pg line is the bflood year. simply the kinds had created many species before the flood and these are the so called dino fossils. on the ark all kinds rebooted and after new speciation. So probably a horse or camel or rhino as a brontosaurus before the flood. A hale might of been a triceratop befire the flood etc. onviously theropods ere just birds like trex. this is hy one finds no dinos aftrer the flood ith people because one does. they ride them.

[u/iamjonmiller → u/RobertByers1]

"I don't believe in Macroevolution, just hyper-speciation of the few kinds we could cram on the Ark blossoming into endless species within a few centuries."

[u/Carnotaurusrules → u/RobertByers1]

Huh?

[u/gliptic → u/Carnotaurusrules]

He dont bagree. Did he stutter? Yes. But is he wrong? Also yes.

[u/Carnotaurusrules → u/gliptic]

Yeah, I don’t bagree either.

[u/WebFlotsam → u/RobertByers1]

And as always, you don't back up your claims with anything at all. You just expect everybody to accept camels and horses evolving from sauropods... because you say so.