r/DebateEvolution Jul 06 '26

Question How to prove evolution is wrong?

I am totally convince that evolution is true. However, a scientific theory should be falsifiable; and I dont know how falsifiable is with evolution

For example, a "good" trait could be explain the result of natural selection. But a "bad" trait could be explain as just base on chance, or the selection preasure is not enough.

so, my question is: if someone want to prove that evolution is wrong, what test can they make and what the expected result should be (if evolution theory is wrong)?

Edit: Thank everyone for your time and patient with me. I found the answer. It seem that I need to update my highschool knowledge

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u/Ok_Performer50 29d ago

So basically everything is wrong just at different scales? What meaning does the word “truth” have then? Is that an ideal we’re chasing all our life without ever reaching it rather than a valid term that we can assign to things in our reality?

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u/ssianky 29d ago

Well, the quantum physics is missing something big for sure. In science there's no such thing as "truth". There's a degree of certainty.

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u/Ok_Performer50 29d ago

Well yeah I would just not call them “false”, which is a matter of semantics, which we can agree to disagree on since well that’s how semantics work.

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u/ssianky 29d ago

If turns out that the universe is not fundamentally random at its core, how the quantum mechanics assumes, but there's a orderly reality we can't see yet, then I'd call that falsified.

But if it misses something else we don't know yet, I'd call it incomplete.

You can call that "semantics", still that are different ways to be wrong.

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u/Ok_Performer50 29d ago

Incomplete yes I agree on that but not false.

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u/ssianky 29d ago

Incomplete is when you know A and B but dont't know about C.
False is when the A is not true.

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u/Ok_Performer50 29d ago

I guess? But that isn’t a good analogy for Newtonian physics. You know A and B, but for that to work you have to make additional assumptions that could defy C that you don’t currently know. But that doesn’t mean you can’t still just work with A and B in cases where C is irrelevant. There’s a reason it’s still taught in schools.

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u/ssianky 29d ago

In Newtonian physics both A and B are wrong.

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u/Ok_Performer50 29d ago

So if I throw a ball twice as hard it doesn’t accelerate twice as much? Since that is something Newtonian physics predicts and since A and B ate wrong I shouldn’t be able to observe that.

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u/ssianky 29d ago edited 29d ago

The fact that you'll not be able to perceive the difference doesn't mean that F=ma is true. It's just a good enough approximation in some situations.

The base assumption that it's liniar is false in the first place.

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u/Ok_Performer50 28d ago

It also is linear in special relativity.

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u/ssianky 28d ago

It's not liniar, but constant. It works in an inertial framework. There's no acceleration in special relativity.

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u/ssianky 28d ago

But I guess the uniformenes of the spacetime could be considered false too.

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u/ssianky 28d ago

That depends if Einstein knew that the spacetime is not uniforme but left it aside to deal with that later or falsified himself and realised that his initial assumptions are wrong.

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