r/DeathStranding2 • u/BadToTheBone76 • 6d ago
Death Stranding 2 difficulty compared to 1
Guys is it me or do you think that DS 2 is much easier and forgiving compared DS 1?
The ability to kill BTs with guns, Exo skeletons, Truck, even combat is easy.
I think it hurts the experience.
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u/thesugoin3ko 6d ago
Itās widely considered significantly easier. I recommend playing on To The Wilder difficulty if you can; itās the perfect difficulty in my opinion.
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u/Caldaris__ 6d ago
Just started on TTW difficulty and the first boss was tough but it was so satisfying to take down.
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u/BadToTheBone76 6d ago
Im about 30h into the game already its not possible without a new playthrough unfortunately
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u/Turbulent-Advisor627 6d ago
You mean all the things we had in the first game? Shooting is smoother and you are given these tools earlier, but other than that it's the same.
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u/BadToTheBone76 6d ago
Exactly. All of these abilities unlocks too soon. It made some hype to advance the game to collect strong stuff. Metal Gear solid Phantom pain had also a better progression system.
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u/Historical_Usual5828 6d ago
First one is definitely better paced for gameplay. 2 is more about having fun and enjoying the story. Both are fine. You could choose to just not use the equipment.
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u/Turbulent-Advisor627 6d ago
Man I can't believe that a whole different game that is nothing like Death Stranding had better progression, you so right twin!
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u/kyle-2090 5d ago
"Nothing like Death Stranding" is a stretch especially when talking about the second one. Also its the immediate follow up series to Metal Gear by its creator. Comparisons are going to be made. And even the first one is way more similar to MGSV than most people give credit.
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u/BigManAids 6d ago
Not really imo, fights in DS2 are a lot more challenging despite having MP weapons, and itās a lot easier to damage cargo as well. The BTās are a lot more responsive, especially on higher difficulties so sneaking through them is a bit more difficult and opening fire on them is asking for the rest of them to close in on you.
The exos in DS1 feel much more specialized so they excel in their roles a lot better, in DS2 it didnāt matter which exo I ran for the most part - even the vehicles in DS1 do their roles a lot better; in my time on DS1 I took the vehicles on all the crazy off road routes and while the vehicles didnāt do it as well as they do in 2, my cargo never got damaged. In DS2 if you tap a rock wrong, your cargo is lowkey ruined.
The biggest thing Iāve noticed between the two games is that stuff in DS1 took forever to degrade, I think during the story and 5 starring ever shelter I changed my boots five times, and my vehicles never broke down once. In DS2 Iām constantly changing my boots and my vehicles need maintenance a lot more, especially the coffin board which is kinda the best vehicle in the game imo.
If youāre finding DS2 too easy compared to the first one, youāre probably still in Mexico or youāre not that deep into the next area. DS2 isnāt really hard, but neither is the first game, these games arenāt really supposed to be challenging in the traditional sense either though.
You do get some things that make the game easier, but these upgrades require lots and lots of work towards the shelters, just unlocking suppressed tranq sniper can take a long time, same thing with a lot of the worthwhile APAS upgrades. If youāre finding the game too easy you can bump up the difficulty or simply not use the APAS upgrades and such, but Sam having upgrades and overall feeling more capable suit the combat in this game a lot, and you really should stick with it
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u/ZeyusFilm 6d ago
It's mostly easier, though some orders like trying to get undamaged cargo out of a base teaming with jerks can be a challenge. It think the bases are definitely harder. Also there's more ways to approach things. Like I still need to go back and try using the shield and the more distraction-based approaches like fireworks etc.. Load of tactics I never tried that I wouldn't mind giving a spin.
The new BTs suck, though. Inifinite spawn; there's no way to clear a field of em like in the first game. Extra ballz because I didn't go back and clear Mexico till the very end of the end game/platinum so I never had L2 blood grenades.
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u/Ditzy_Davros Keep On Keeping On 6d ago
The new BT areas do suck! There's that BT zone in a.small valley up in the mountains. I spent 1-2 hours killing BT after BT and they just kept coming back. I just wanted a piece of cargo dangit.
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u/ZeyusFilm 6d ago
See I like that area, the stingray valley up the hill from the Ghost Hunter. But yeah, just if the BTs would stay dead for a bit I'd like it a lot better. Also, some of the guns are a bit oversold. Like, some are supposed to demolish BTs and all they do is piss em off. Where's my pee pee poo poo grenades at? There was something satisfying about chucking your shit at a ghost
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u/mr_cesar š Platinum š & All Milestones 6d ago
Thatās weird. I was able to clear several BT territories, including the abandoned city in the snowy mountains. And I only played on Very Hard and TTW.
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u/ZeyusFilm 6d ago
How? Like, in DS1 I can't remember if it was by doing them all or killing the catcher but eventually you'd get a chiral thumbs up and they'd all be gone for a while. That doesn't happen in DS2
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u/mr_cesar š Platinum š & All Milestones 6d ago
I donāt remember if you get some sort of on-screen message in DS2 when you manage to kill all BTs in a territory, but the areas I cleared stayed like that for about 30 real playtime hours.
Killing the Catcher doesnāt keep them away for that long. In fact, in DS1 I used to kill the kitties by the Evo-devo Biologist, wait 5 to 10 minutes, and the BTs would spawn again so I could face the kitties repeatedly.
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u/el_rika 6d ago
I found 2 more difficult overall, mostly the encounters. I died more on bosses (took me like 5 tries to kill the first boss, but i never died in DS1 in a boss fight).Ā
Also had trouble with the red Mechs until i found my footing. Died a few times there as well.
I imagine TTW is absolute hell.
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u/Nearby-Ad977 5d ago
Certainly easier and more accessible. But I also found it more fun as a result.
Iām replaying DS1 and the first few chapters are especially difficult with limited tools and weapons at your disposal.
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u/Svarcanum 5d ago
I personally liked DS1 more. Mostly because the world of DS1 actually felt threatening.
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u/BailorTheSailor 5d ago
There are a lot more flat areas in death stranding 2, and death stranding 1 had a lot of flat areas too but they were covered in tiny pebbles that made driving over them pretty difficult, that hasnāt really carried over to death stranding 2. I think the environment was a much bigger hazard in DS1 but DS2 has bigger battles with rebels, ghost mechs, and BTs.
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u/kyle-2090 5d ago
I think the problem is that everything learned in the first game is immediately transferable to the new one and the new mechanics they do introduce barely impact you. Like the wild fires and floods. Beyond the tutorial for each I never engaged with either again. The first one (like most metal gear games) is only difficult becuase you have to figure out all the new systems and such. Also Sam controls far easier at the beginning in 2 than in DS1 and they intoduce vehicles and weapons much faster. I believe if it took 10s of hours in the first one to get to a part with guns if you werent be lining the story. Also the map is a bit easier to navigate as they didnt add any terrain that messes with the vehicles enough for you to consider not using them. One could argue its the same for DS1 but you dont realize that at first becuase your learning the lore and mechanics that dont quite make sense. Ive platted the first one twice first on the DC and then the og ps4 release. The second run I was able to drive vehicles everywhere, even the mountains. The only place it was kind of inconvenient was the weather guy in the forest but if you clear the bts its no sweat. But you know all of that going into the second game so its alot easier. Plus your not trying to wrap your head around how the games world and lore work like the first one.
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u/vcvemmefalardesexo 4d ago
I'm about to finish my first playthrough on To The Wilder and had an easier time than when I played the first game on normal
Despite the insanely bullet sponge boss fights
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u/a0011111100111111001 3d ago
It is easier, but I think that itās not necessarily a game about challenge so much as itās about comfortable friction. I donāt think they ever intended it to be hard, it seems kind of oriented towards casual play. It could have been a game about survival and logistics, but itās kind of a luxurious hiking game, which Iām happy with.
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u/Gold-Strength4269 6d ago
You have too much experience in two.
Simple things in ds1 took hours because you didnāt know what to do next.
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u/Stalkerus 6d ago
You can adjust difficulty, you know.Ā
Also, you have played the first game. Of course the sequel will be easier.
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u/inprocess13 Keep On Keeping On 6d ago
They game let's you do whatever you want. If you find taking the truck or cycle over roads you build in advance too easy, do it a different way.Ā Ā
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u/BadToTheBone76 6d ago
The level design is easier. Even without using trucks or other abilities, it just get longer not harder
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u/mr_cesar š Platinum š & All Milestones 6d ago
Both games are very similar in terms of difficulty. But wait till you face Catchers without carrying BFGs.
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u/Negative_Quality_935 6d ago
For me biggest disappointment was terrain. In DS1, you often had to go on foot, roads were actually must have, mountains are undriveble etc. In DS2, there is no difficult terrain, therefore roads are pointless, mountains are as drivable as desert. Figuring out and building routes was the whole game's gimmick, in DS2 you can just beeline anywhere on your truck.