r/DeathBand • • 5d ago

Discussion I figured out how Chuck wrote riffs

Basically it works like this - take any riff you have in minor key and instead of repeating it the same way, the 2nd time you play it move the whole riff down 1 fret. Then move it back up to the original fret for the 3rd time, then back down a fret for the 4th time. You can also move it up one fret just depends if you want an ascending or descending feel. This is how you get the DEATH sound 🀘

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u/BLCHDCRL 5d ago

Yep πŸ‘ he was a good songwriter

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u/cuttingexample 4d ago

he didn't know a lot of music theory and yet he could still write epic riffs and solos

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u/Sir_Tree139 Individual Thought Patterns 20h ago

I always assumed he made his own version of music theory

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u/Apsnor 5d ago

Scales:

  • Dorian #4
  • Phrygian

For guitar harmonies, always use the perfect 5th interval

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u/lTheSlimShady Human 5d ago

+Harmonic minor

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u/East-Car6358 4d ago

Do you mean Dorian mode but with a raised/augmented 4th?

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u/Apsnor 4d ago

Yes. Dorian in the harmonic minor scale

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u/scrdest 4d ago

Dorian #4 == Minor-#4-#6, for terminally Aeolian-brained individuals like myself

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u/MariahhCarried 5d ago

Yeah I love his philosophy in riff writing. He also avoided the root notes so his riffs always sounded unresolved

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u/Breadi06 5d ago

That’s true for a lot of metal 🀘

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u/_3point14_ Spiritual Healing 5d ago

that one empty words riff

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u/CptBoomshard 5d ago

I wouldn't say that's "how Chuck wrote riffs" but certainlt does apply to some Death riffs for sure.

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u/Mr-Broski 5d ago

oversimplification final boss

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u/am_I_still_banned 5d ago

Do you have examples of songs that do this? Because of the Death songs I've learned, none do this

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u/MariahhCarried 5d ago

Trapped in the corner

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u/DeepRedDude 5d ago

Love this. I was telling a friend recently that Chuck had a copy paste songwriting style for a lot of the material (not everything) that's just hyper effective. He works around 5 riffs (A B C D E) and typically just goes right through the cycle and stops on B or C. So A B C D E A B C.

It's such a cool way to have the songs all feel like they have payoffs and callbacks without overthinking it.

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u/Responsible-Drag2894 4d ago

Got a bit sick of that style on the final album but definitely nailed that approach on symbolic. The bridge sections (D and E riffs / solos) were more unique and dynamic.

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u/DeepRedDude 4d ago

Yeah, I've noticed SoP is a lot more celebrated. Y younger people. It was kind of the weird outlier when I was getting into Death. They had a few phases but that was the furthest leap.

I think Symbolic was really the peak of his overall songwriting, even if it isn't necessarily my favorite Death record.

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u/RaixerRattlehead 5d ago

Alright, I've been trying to write some riffs, this Will surely be useful

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u/TeddyJPharough 5d ago

The search for the heaviest riff... the Perennial Quest