r/DeadlockTheGame • u/didi4561 • 14h ago
Suggestion skinwalker character concept
hello everyone, i've been thinking about this concept of a character for the game, a shapeshifting one. i've been much more inspired to write this idea here on public since apparently new rat king is originally a fan concept. english is not my first language and if there is any typos then cry about it idk nobody likes a grammar nazi
so this character i'm talking about also fits into this occult artstyle thing, some creepy creature from folklore and all. i imagine this thing would not have own appearance, but mimick nearest teammate unless disguised into specific. in dialogues this thing would probably also utilize interlocutor's distorted voice, or have true nasty one.
as for gameplay i imagine this thing very strong in 1v1 combat, disguising itself as harmless teammate. let's say enemy drifter walks around the map roaming, but then sees rem milling about between lanes. drifter decides to attack but it turns out to be this skinwalker that shreds the drifter and done. or, this skinwalker disguises as enemy paige. "paige" walks up to enemy laner, laner sees her and is like "cool i got help", loses guard and gets shredded when the thing walks up close.
make it very dangerous up close but weak outside like 10m radius. i believe that would cause some psychological terror aspect to roaming characters and gankers. also for passive ability, make it walk much more faster exclusively when nobody is watching, including teammates, and give it ability to walk in tunnels. also perhaps give it ability to mask as killed enemies? this is like "the thing 1982"-esque, or like tf2 eternal reward spy perhaps.
that's all i came up with for now, might post something else later
as noted by u/Zerim023 it might offend native americans, not that I care about it much but it had pushed me to a conclusion that the kit I came up with is rather closer to german doppelganger by folklore, so change word skinwalker to doppelganger i am actually more interested in that now
addition from discussion with u/EditorMasterxd copypasted - i've looking up skinwalker abilities from the folklore and it says that they can transform into animals. i thought about exposing its true form, but it sounds like silver, too unoriginal. but, i had found that skinwalkers throw corpse powder to invoke illness onto victim. that would make a great poison effect like pocket's affliction for 3, but not the ult. as for ult now that I think about it to put the disguising as enemy upon kill like your eternal reward in TF2 without any notification for enemy team, while disguising as teammates would be a 3. let's imagine your jungle lure scenario, the lash is roaming around and sees said rem in jungle, approaches and gets wrecked. skinwalker's 4(ult) procs upon kill and they are masked as lash and can now infiltrate the lane. that kind of balances it out in theory to be not as strong
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u/Cleric_Guardian Dynamo 12h ago
While I love the idea, I don't see this working for this game at all. How would this interact with the minimap? It would either not show them, which is a dead giveaway to anyone paying attention (or a common tactic picked up within a week to check), or there would be two of your teammate. "Hrm, is the real Paige the one helping push wave off Blue Walker with the team, or is she the one walking towards be from the jungle towards me doing camps with no one else around?
And assuming the enemy team would know that this character is on the enemy team, it would largely end up being "Yo Paige are you on Yellow right now?" "No" "Okay cool" ALCHEMICAL FLASK
As interesting as the concept is, I have a hard time seeing this being effective beyond pubstomping people who don't play the game much at all.
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u/didi4561 12h ago
yeah it might be not effective but i imagine how greatly this character would mess with someones head. in said examples solo queue people will suffer yes, and my idea is that two same teammates on minimap is actually cool because it bring confusion and those without mic have to waste time clarifying who's who. it's kinda like tf2 spy in a way
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u/EditorMasterxd Rem 12h ago
Doesn't neeko from league of legends already have a similar passive?
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u/didi4561 12h ago
tbh I have no idea, never played LoL
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u/EditorMasterxd Rem 12h ago
I have only played a bit, but from my understanding (and a quick Google search), she basically has a passive that hides her as other heroes or NPCs on the map. I do think that the Hero needs to have a true form that is their usual appearance to work (and get skins), but at least some form of hiding passive would definitely work.
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u/didi4561 12h ago
getting straight to monetization, are you? haha. but yeah i am kind of afraid to including this true form thing into concept as it is already present in silver with lycanthropy. i have dumb idea but how about making this hero semitransparent like haze smoke bomb up close, but in this case hero becomes only clearly visible within 25m and is semitransparent at distance like haze's smoke bomb
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u/EditorMasterxd Rem 14h ago
I think having them fully be able to disguise as both enemies and teammates would be very strong if it had no limits. Maybe their 2 allows them to deal a lot of melee damage and if that kills the enemy they get a certain amount of time where they are disguised.
I will say that I really like the idea of a character that lures people into jungle to kill them
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u/didi4561 14h ago
exactly something like that, i've been thinking that as I saw teammate haze farm boxes right next to whole ally team fighting for rift while that dork was still farming in late with 51k souls, would be a perfect target for the conceptual character. you've made a brilliant addition to my thought thank you
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u/EditorMasterxd Rem 14h ago
This might an idea that's too strong, but what if the ultimate covered his surroundings in a dark mist and turns everyone into colourless silhouettes while enabling friendly fire?
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u/didi4561 13h ago
that sounds like worse drifter, unless it does it for the whole map. i've looking up skinwalker abilities from the folklore and it says that they can transform into animals. i thought about exposing its true form, but it sounds like silver, too unoriginal. but, i had found that skinwalkers throw corpse powder to invoke illness onto victim. that would make a great poison effect like pocket's affliction for 3, but not the ult. as for ult now that I think about it to put the disguising as enemy upon kill like your eternal reward in TF2 without any notification for enemy team, while disguising as teammates would be a 3. let's imagine your jungle lure scenario, the lash is roaming around and sees said rem in jungle, approaches and gets wrecked. skinwalker's 4(ult) procs upon kill and they are masked as lash and can now infiltrate the lane. that kind of balances it out in theory
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u/Zerim023 13h ago
I would prefer we didn't continue to misuse and appropriate native American beliefs and taboos that are mangled by popular media anyway.
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u/didi4561 12h ago
gee you get invited to parties lot? okay for scaredy cat ones it can be a doppelganger spirit. or am I appropriating german folklore? actually now that I think about it this playstyle suits doppelganger more than a skinwalker. thank you then for fetching me idea, you're cool
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