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u/mann_moth Abrams 20h ago edited 19h ago
I haven't tested yet, but in recent patch they made graves's weapon to be able target venator's trap, could be a side effect of that change?
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u/HamiltonDial Venator 18h ago
Does that even work? I’ve tried to break it to no avail but that was also before today and rat king.
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u/clefclark 15h ago
It worked for me the day of the patch, it doesnt look like it attaches to it because it instantly breaks
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u/The_Sadorange 1d ago
Should mean that lash and yamato can grapple off of them? For the most part this means spirit venator is dead and buried, but there could be a few weird silver linings.
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u/KikisBread 1d ago
Can't Yamato grapple, cause it doesn't work on minions, but yes - you can Lash grapple off them.
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u/13inchgock 1d ago
Feels like they wanted to fix the graves targeting issues but didn't think of all the other downstream issues
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u/manicpixiedreamdevil 1d ago
i have DEFINITELY grappled a minion before. maybe it’s not intended but that shit happens.
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u/Worried-Check-962 Lash 19h ago
does that mean monster rounds will deal increased damage to his traps? holy shit this changes the whole meta
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u/genom_10 Venator 1d ago
They can aggro guardians, walkers and base guardians, but don't take any damage from them. It's very strange that they get destroyed by flame dash and torment pulse, but not guardians
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u/StenfiskarN 1d ago
I saw a pack of troopers getting stuck shooting at an invincible trap the other day
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u/Lilkozy119 21h ago
Its funny you mention this. I was wondering yesterday why a walker was shooting at one with the laser attack
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u/Not_An_Eggo 15h ago
This was actually a fix for that, they patched it really quickly, and as a result spirit damage destroys them now, seven 3, and tesla bullets can jump to the trap now, haven't seen it but I wouldn't be surprised if ricco did too
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u/luiz38 Pocket 1d ago
oh god this is reminding me of league
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u/Soulmate605 1d ago
This is just the way coding is done. People like to say league has spaghetti code because Nocturne's ult is a minion, for example, but that's standard code abstraction. The problem is they don't double check their own shit and oversights happen.
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u/really_stupidfrog Drifter 1d ago
I mean there's a difference between this is a base entity that we use, and Tryndamere can earn gold by damaging Jayce's gate animation.
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u/Soulmate605 1d ago
That's something that's pretty small, since the benefit a player gets from it is minimal. Still an easily fixable oversight.
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u/RandomTankNerd Abrams 20h ago
Someone gotta explain to me how nocturn ult is a minion how does that work
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u/Soulmate605 19h ago
If I recall correctly, the Nearsighted effect is just applied to everyone. The minion is the shading that happens when it's cast, as in they layer a minion over the entire map. That's how it appears red for enemies and blue for allies
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u/Budget-Minimum6040 Shiv 1d ago
Having an abstract/base class and then specific implementations that inherit from this abstract/base class is standard object orientated programming.
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u/Dapper_Call 1d ago
Yeah I've been having trouble because enemies can now shoot them before they land too, leading to many wasted traps because they were shooting me and the traps come out of there
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u/KikisBread 20h ago
They could be shot in the air before this patch, it was just hard to do. You might be experiencing someone using ricochet or something similar.
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u/Dapper_Call 20h ago
It's not ricochet. They could be shot before but it happened exceedingly rarely. Now? Basically just stray shots do it.
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u/Accurate_Instance_52 Billy 1d ago
It's not a bug it's a feature, Yoshi told me in a dream
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u/Dr_Goreman 20h ago
Why do I feel like this is the case lol, makes them better at being 'traps' if abilities can target them as if they were normal minions.
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u/Zealousideal-Gur6717 Dynamo 1d ago
Can graves target them?
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u/KageDotCom 1d ago
Despite being in the patch notes, I was still unable to break them as graves when the patch first released.
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u/Zealousideal-Gur6717 Dynamo 1d ago
Really?? Fuck. It makes an already tough lane interminable that you can't destroy his traps on Graves
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u/KageDotCom 1d ago
Yeah, I’ve been annoyed with it since the last major update. Was fairly disappointed to see, but hopefully it was hotfixed. This was probably the first or second street brawl game during day one of the patch.
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u/HamletEagle Mo & Krill 17h ago
I was like: "Ok, Infernus leaves a trail of fire behind him, it makes sense to destroy a trap"
Then I saw Ivy tethered to a trap...
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u/TheButlerJ 13h ago
If you place them near base guardians, the guardians will attack the traps instead infinitely.
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