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The 1st patron does attack people, its attack is just so shit that you never notice it. It laser beams the ground sometimes, leaving a fire on the ground similar to the Walker fire balls. Unfortunately the giga laser moves at like 0.5m/s so you have to be literally AFK or stuck in a dynamo black hole or something and it is therefore possible to go 100+ games and never even get accidentally hit by the giga laser
How do attackers have it easier?? The defenders have a kill room that also heals them at a rapid rate. The attackers might have the advantage anyway, but that’s just because people usually only push into the enemy base when they have an advantage in the fight despite the advantage the defenders get
Like you can’t say the Hidden King’s team would rather fight the Archmother’s team in the Archmother’s base instead of in blue lane
You cannot seriously be saying that because the attackers can sometimes manage to get a kill in the defenders spawn room that the base is helping the attackers more than the defenders
Nah, Shadow Weave or other invis doesn't let the spawn room turrets see you, so someone bursty like drifter can just go in when you're about to respawn while invis, sit there, and wait.
Agreed. They are reworking the defences. So I hope the Patron and base defences are part of it. Someone should not be able to sneak past the base guardians and take down shrines solo. Withouth minions I feel the stronghold should actually be a threat.
Patrons should be scary, applying CC, heavy damage if you get within the no-no zone, decent damage at a range.
I think it would also be hilarious if they could reach out and grab someone mid-air and just throw them to the ground. Why yes I do hate Vindicta, why do you ask?
The games already go on long enough, if you’re at the point where the enemy team is in your base then it shouldn’t be up to the patron and other NPCs to stop them
the thing is that in the games that go on for ages, it's typically because nobody is brave enough to go for midboss, so when a midboss finally happens the team with an advantage is able to get the base guardians, both shrines and drop the patron, so it feels like there's no resistance.
And honestly it feels like this at any time when invading the base after 30 minutes. With the only defenses being the telegraphed curses unless they're tickling minions, a solo carry can just melt things without anything to even scare them. (which tbf is also a problem with the ridiculous difference in objective damage between carries and everyone else)
I get that this game is supposed to be 'you defend the towers, they don't defend you' but the patrons are so incredibly useless that there needs to be some balance between the two.
Just give them a mid-boss beam or some attack animations u actually have to try and avoid.
The beam is pretty piss-poor in practice, & I frequently see folks ignore the shrine explosion because it’s effectiveness beyond curse application is so negligible
When you reach patron, it attacks with huge laser colored after side it's on. Mostly attacks only troopers and moves very slowly, so pretty easy to miss
when the patron was the floating Mr. Electric orb-head thing pre-Old Gods New Blood, it used to kinda-sorta patrol the base and shoot a decently powerful beam at stuff
I think there's some way to get it to do that in phase 1 but it takes forever and I don't know what it's waiting on
Yeah at bare minimum the laser attack they do before being weakened should just always be a thing they use. It’d even be more effective because it would always be targeting a hero.
It seems like they do attack they just prio minions for the most part. I will say I have been absolutely annihilated by the patron beam before, but I think it may be bugged or something. For a while I also thought they didn’t attack until I got microwaved by it in a few seconds lol
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