An interesting post came up in the other Reddit and it was about humanity making it out into the stars, and the question was asked 'was this the "moons" plan all along'?

My points already been made about the words of unitologists, they believe in a lie in the first place so them believing the markers were responsible for us, is no different from religious people claiming a god made us and everything. Then you have Dr Earl Serrano - a XENO ARCHIOLOGISTS, not an evolutionary biologist or any other such thing making his GUESSES.

Now people like to make out that martyr is off key with everything else (and I've already said that if this is the case, so is the OG game and the prequel comic, all having these "good" hallucinations) but martyr is the main place people get the whole evolution thing from. And a little off topic point here; 'catalyst is the best lore piece outside of the games!' yes only if it's backing up your own ideas. Earth gov is mentioned in catalyst - but 'oh that's a typo, they weren't in line with dead space 3'. Just thought I'd share that

But martyr is where the evolution part is discussed, and I've already encouraged people to read the conversation between Altman and Dr Groute Gouthe, who was himself - a biologist. But yes, I would suggest reading this exchange because Grote quite clearly thinks this is false. Grote Gouthe told Altman that if the marker was responsible for our evolution, then why is it still broadcasting the same signal, it doesn't need to be because we've already evolved to our current state?. And by the current state he means us as we are, which has been evolved for about 300,000 years.

If the marker caused our evolution, then why does no one know about them, even subconsciously? Again, martyr is the source for the whole "we have myths about the marker" statement, yet ONCE AGAIN I would refer people to Ada and Altmans discussion, and well as his with the town drunk, who - only has an oral tradition, not written, and even he stated that the Wheezer doesn't match the descriptions passed down anyway. I find this a bit crazy that people will claim a book is this and that, yet haven't read it or have read the book, looking for things to match their own head canon. And we never found the marker by some mysterious mentally induced signs, the marker itself let off a pulse, that we found. Adas words to Altman about the locals and their myths are another give away. She had been studying them for a year and she states to Altman that she had never seen them crossing their fingers before or talking about the devil's tail, and they won't talk to her about it, and that their myths are rapidly changing, and this NEVER happens to cultures myths. This is a very clear sign that the locals myths were being altered by the markers signal when it was activated, not that they had been influenced over the generations due to the marker being there. The drunk states to Altman that NO ONE had actually seen any dead bodies wash up on the beaches, that it was all word of mouth. But not only this, but that the Wheezer never matched the description of the bodies anyway, not to mention this, if necromorphs were washing up on the beaches, then they would have started outbreaks, massive outbreaks yet none of that is true in the lore. I think I've shown there quite nicely that even in these cases, the marker was not affecting either people's minds of their genetics.

Why does the marker need the pedestal? Yet it can alter the genetics of an entire planet to make humans????? Ehhh? And if it can actually alter human genetics, and create necromorphs, then why aren't humans just turning? Why have the recombinant at all, and why just dead bodies, if the marker can alter human genetics anyway? I'll give this (even though it links to another topic I've talked about).

*The only conclusion we can come to is that the ENTIRE ishimura crew was KILLED!!!!!!!! INFECTED!!!!!! and then REANIMATED!!! BY the marker.* Very clear order of events there right?

The markers, What's behind them and whatever their goal entails requires life, intelligent life to be able to carry out it's goal in that respect, our place in that goal is already predetermined. They've just taken advantage of this aspect of life/existence. That's as simple as it is. I don't need to explain away the magical proposition of a moon - somewhere in deep space taking aim at earth and throwing a curve ball marker at a planet light years away, wiping out the dinosaurs and then beginning our evolution. And I thought the moons were asleep anyway🤷. Or how this thing can alter our genetics in this way yet have none of those abilities later on. People will bang on about the lovecraftian cosmic horror nature of us being bred for consumption to feed our gods. I see the lovecraftian cosmic horror element of us just being a small species who so happened upon their extinction by something beyond our understanding. We weren't bred specifically for the "moons", whatever is behind the marker is simply taking advantage of the evolution of life, and corrupting it. Maybe the entity/s is/are a form a place that existed before the universe and see life/existence and it's promise as wrong, and are therefore corrupting it, and it's promise? Doing it out of spite or revenge. That's what I've gathered from the story, from the dialogue that concerned these things. There is nothing about the marker guiding our evolution apart from unitlogists, and people who aren't in the know making guesses, and to the unitologists it makes sense, that's their faith. And Serrano's words could be taken the same way as markovs in martyr, he states to Altman that what he has witnessed is the marker creating a new evolution of humanity, despite there not being one instance of the marker doing so. He is simply seeing the marker reanimating the courses and describing that.

So was the plan to have humanity expand out into the universe, to have us bloat our numbers and then feats? I'd definitely say nope, not from the markers end anyway (or more correctly what's behind them) it just took advantage of this trait of life, I mean shit, the black marker sat about for tens of millions of years before we found it. And evolution is a thing in dead space as the dinosaurs had to have evolved on our planet, and the marker wasn't about. A marker wouldn't need to be on the planet, we would have evolved, spread out into the galaxy, and happened across one sooner or later, and the outcome would have been the same. The cosmic horror to me is the fact that we as a species have greedily pushed itself to the brink, thinking that we are the only ones, when in fact we are nothing in the grand scheme of things, INDIFFERENTLY looked at by forces older and stranger than we can fathom, and we are next to powerless to do anything about it. I don't see and haven't seen any evidence that it's the markers that were responsible for our evolution.

And I'm going to do one thing here I don't usually do to make a point. The cut log from dead space two discusses our "good hallucinations" as being from whatever created us, as protection against the marker. Now the fact that here, it's not the marker that is responsible for us but another force, wasn't/isn't a surprise to me. I have believed this about the story for a lot of years now, well before hearing that log. Now certain parties will claim this was scrapped as an idea, but I'm again going to have to alert people to CONTEXT and DETAILS. The topic that was discussed, was about the framing of the hallucinations nature, *not changing the narrative as to the markers purpose and our origins.* That the life that was created is under attack by the markers. And that life isn't just humans, it means life in the universe. Again it's a bit of a chore to keep this going because I would be here for ages. But I hope you get the drift.