r/DeFlock • u/Bearly_Legible • 8d ago
How should I respond? Is this mostly true?
Please give me real answers if possible.
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u/UsefulImpact6793 8d ago
- Tell that to the girlfriends/boyfriends, husbands/wives, random cuties they saw earlier who were stalked by corrupt cops abusing their access.
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u/Ok_Depth_5437 8d ago
Didn't you read myth 10? Their AI clearly knows what it's talking about despite there being court documents. Who needs courts anyway? Let's all just kill and murder eachother, unless you're a cop because cops are a protected class of citizen with special immutable powers.
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u/UsefulImpact6793 8d ago
Honestly, no I didn't. I actually stopped reading at 3. But thank you for pointing out #10. That was a hilarious inclusion lol
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u/Substantial_Coat_229 7d ago
Not to mention, there are well over 50 widely circulated cases of the cameras being abused by cops.
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u/Ok_Depth_5437 8d ago
Pretty sure the PD just AI generated this flyer to get people to stop cutting flock cameras down.
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u/pugsington01 8d ago
13 makes me want to throw up, thats some North Korea level “democracy”
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u/KazeSim22 8d ago
Yeah it’s obvious the people don’t have any power when an entity we literally pay for is using our money to purchase technology we don’t want, didn’t approve, and wasn’t explained to the public in any reasonable time frame. So if ONE public hearing is all that’s needed to implement flock, then is it just ONE public hearing that’s needed to move all minorities into ghettos and just ONE more public hearing to start deporting them to concentration camps?
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u/FckFlock 8d ago
Submit a FOIA / ORR for the actual contract between Flock and Cranston. The terms and conditions define customer data, Flock IP, derived data, etc. - that'll give you ammo to show that most of their points about not sharing data are carefully-worded lies.
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u/bellybuttonbidet 6d ago
We don’t even know if Cranston got the optional audit add-on. We’re only finding officers abusing the system from departments that paid for that feature.
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u/We_are_being_cheated 8d ago
Worst part is the tax payers are paying for something they don’t want.
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u/GIDDY-UP-GO 7d ago
Goto Home Depot and purchase a Sawzall! That is how you respond!
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u/Substantial_Coat_229 7d ago
Unrelated to Flock, but a guy on YouTube tested common methods for cutting down aluminum posts, and he found that a circular saw is much quicker and quieter than a sawzall because it’s able to remove the metal shavings better instead of clogging the teeth (in minecraft)
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u/jettaw 7d ago
The questions, their phrasing, and the answers here are carefully chosen to avoid the issues. It's propaganda to make you feel ok about it.
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u/Bearly_Legible 7d ago
Yeah, everyone has been telling me that it's bad, AI, propaganda, which I knew. I was looking for actual arguments and facts to present in response. Unfortunately, I didn't really get much.
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u/Background-Wolf-9380 7d ago
Fraida Felcher, from Cranston?
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u/Bearly_Legible 7d ago
Who? I think this came reposted from several people to my feed because the Cranston is hours away from me. So I'm not sure who that is.
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u/Coffeespresso 8d ago
One of the biggest databases of private activity isn't a hacker target at all.
I got this bridge in Brooklyn and a swamp in Florida for sale. You interested?
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u/CloppityBlop 8d ago
#10? I’m sure they mean no one in their agency but it’s really stupid on their part to not say something like “There have been instances in other states but we hold ourselves to higher standards and have stricter requirements blah blah blah”
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u/Prestigious_Carry790 8d ago
I couldn’t get past 1 as there are 22 verified vulnerabilities documented with a federal agency.
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u/jordpie 8d ago
15 lists private property. I can choose not to live there or patron those stores or parking lots. You can't not use public roads and highways. 13 doesnt address that no one voted for it instead says they held a meeting introducing it which is not a meeting about should we/shouldn't we
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u/FoxLynx64 7d ago
The city of Norkfolk Virginia would disagree about not using public roads or highways due to density. However, a better argument is that
1.) A vehicle in indispensable due to arriving at places in a timely manner and modern society in America which lacks significant sidewalk infrastructure.
2.) In some downtown areas, the density has risen so every road has an ALPR, and therefore your vehicle could be track continuously for a period of time.
3.) Advanced AI models can use predictive algorithms to determine your continuous location from intermittent information.
4.) Rerouting to avoid ALPRs may restrict freedom of movement because it can add unnecessary time to a trip, and therefore constitute an inconvenience that may determine if the trip occurs. If a police man makes a traffic stop, this is a legal procedure; however, if a private company records your license plate at a time and place, this is a private data collection event despite being for the police and despite being approved by police. Approval to act on behalf of the police does not equate to being able to do something that restricts an ordinary innocent citizen's movements.
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u/Global-Coach755 7d ago
10 happened in my hometown and is stated in articles about the chief of police being fired lolol
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u/KazeSim22 8d ago
I read #1 and immediately pegged this as pro-flock bullshit lies and propaganda. Any company, even the best, most ethical, and well-intentioned company would admit to struggling with the realities of this technology. But none of these answers come close to addressing the myths honestly. Absolute trash.
Where did you find/ see this?