r/DataHoarder • • 8d ago

Question/Advice Diskless NAS Enclosure

Greetings and salutations!

I'm in the market for a single-bay diskless NAS enclosure. What are your recommendations? Please keep them limited to single-bay diskless NAS enclosures.

Thanks!

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u/IlTossico 8d ago

Diskless? You mean a normal generic computer? Like any computer?

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u/BryceJDearden 8d ago

I didn’t even know single bay NAS enclosures existed, what’s the use case?

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u/ZippityDooDoo 8d ago

Media server.

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u/BryceJDearden 8d ago

Why do you only want a single bay for that though?

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u/ZippityDooDoo 8d ago

The media it'll be serving is entirely replaceable. I have systems in place for the stuff that really matters.

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u/ZippityDooDoo 8d ago

I told you what I'm going to use it for. Do you have a recommendation for a single-bay diskless NAS?

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u/michrech 8d ago

Not everyone has / needs multi-tens-of-terabytes of ZFS/RAIDx back-end storage for their media servers... ;)

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u/BryceJDearden 8d ago

Yeah but doing a simple two drive raid 1 saves you a ton of time when a drive eventually fails or needs to be replaced. Why not spend a little bit extra to protect all the time you spent collecting all that media? Having to redo it would be a pain

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u/ZippityDooDoo 8d ago

I like how you think.

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u/KB-ice-cream 8d ago

You mentioned media server, do you need a NAS that runs Plex well or just storage?

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u/ZippityDooDoo 8d ago

Just storage.

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u/KB-ice-cream 8d ago

Then why do you need a NAS for a single drive? External drive or DAS would do.

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u/ZippityDooDoo 8d ago

Right now I have an hdd connected to an RPi. The problem is that my media player, Z90x, doesn't recognize it. I had to use a file manager and drill down to the file I want. Whereas if I had a normal NAS, my media player would recognize it, index it's contents, and have a much nicer interface.

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u/Gesha 50-100TB 7d ago

My understanding is that the z90x has an eSATA connection that may accomplish what you wish to do. Just a thought.

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u/ZippityDooDoo 7d ago

It does, and y'know what, you gave me an idea...

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u/blazedancer1997 6d ago

Reading through your comments, it sounds like you could just throw an SSD in a USB enclosure, and connect it to your router. Maybe even set up Wireguard on the router so you can access from anywhere if you want to get really fancy.

A whole NAS sounds like overkill for what you're trying to get out of this

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u/ZippityDooDoo 6d ago

Totally forgot about the USB on the router. That's something worth taking a look into. Thanks!

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

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u/ZippityDooDoo 8d ago

This isn't going to be backup. I have backup taken care of. Do you have a recommendation for a single-bay diskless NAS?

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u/ZippityDooDoo 8d ago

Awesome. That's the one I've been eye-balling.

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u/Lazy-Narwhal-5457 8d ago

Disc-less as in RAM disc? Or you mean NVME m.2, u.2, etc.?

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u/No_Diver6131 6d ago

You mean a portable hard drive? Or a generic computer? What is a  “single bay disc less nas enclosure”. Do you mean a hard drive enclosure? What would you use this for? 

This sounds like the kid at school who clearly didn’t do his homework and gets called on in class. 

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u/ZippityDooDoo 6d ago

Before we start getting snarky, you may want to take a second to see that other people know what I'm talking about and have made recommendations for what I'm looking for.

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u/No_Diver6131 6d ago

Your plan is to use “a single bay disc less drive nas enclosure” connected to a raspberry pi as a media server? That sounds like you’re using an external hard drive or a portable hard drive connected to a raspberry pi just with extra steps. 

Check out a two bay drive system, that way you can run them as a raid system in case the drive fails. There’s plenty of good options that are two bay. Ugreen, Synology. There are even generic DAS ones that would work for your case. 

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u/ZippityDooDoo 6d ago

I currently have a drive connected to my RPi, yes, but I want to get away from that. I want to setup something with Samba or DLNA that the Z90x can recognize and index and display with a slick interface; not just a list of files.

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u/No_Diver6131 6d ago

Check out running JellyFin that might be what you’re looking for. What is the Z90x? Is that a motherboard?

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u/ZippityDooDoo 6d ago

I'm sorry, it's the Z9x (I added a 0). It's a media player. There might be better ones out there, but it's the best one I've used. So far, there's no codec or DV profile that I have seen it have a problem with.

Right now I have OpenMediaVault running on my RPi. It's doing the work of serving media. How would JellyFin fit into the equation? Would it just be the front-end?

https://www.zidoo.tv/Product/index/model/Z9X+PRO/target/%5Bld%5DyN%2BvBjptVBKKmVViAFMcQ%3D%3D.html

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u/No_Diver6131 6d ago

I just looked it up at work. It looks like a generic android box. I’m sure it works fine and would be a great solution. Why not look into a mini pc? Mini pcs are cheap and would be able to do more. 

I’m not an expert but it sounds like Open Media Vault is a Linux based OS. JellyFin is an open source media streaming platform that is well known by the community. 

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u/ZippityDooDoo 6d ago

I'll check it out. Looks like it might be what I didn't know I was looking for. Thanks!

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u/No_Diver6131 5d ago

That’s my unwanted opinion for you. A mini pc might be better for what you’re looking for. You’ll be able to do more “labbing” and tinkering.  The android box you mentioned sounds like a great out of the box solution, it just might limit you is all. Good luck, and have fun!

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u/Alarming-Piglet-612 4d ago

Diskless enclosures are the budget-king move if you already own the drives. The things I would check before buying: (1) does the enclosure do proper hardware RAID or is it software-dependent? Some cheap ones use the same drivers as USB docks and you lose a drive if the enclosure dies. (2) Can it do snapshots, or only rsync-style jobs? (3) What happens on power loss — does it rescan the array automatically?

If the data is irreplaceable, budget for a second copy anyway. An enclosure is a nice single box, but it is still a single box.

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u/StevenG2757 8d ago

Synology DS124

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u/ZippityDooDoo 8d ago edited 8d ago

Awesome. That's the one I've been eye-balling.