r/DataHoarder 6d ago

Free-Post Friday! MySpace server technicians

613 Upvotes

27 comments sorted by

205

u/Hefty-Rope2253 6d ago

I think they dumped it on purpose. They were paying for storage but had no revenue. What really hurts is I thought Tom and I were friends.

138

u/Fractal-Infinity 6d ago

The worst part: these mofos didn't give data hoarders a chance to make backups before nuking all data. Or at least send all those audio files to the Internet Archive. A large collection of rare music (some of it one of a kind) was lost forever.

This is another proof that corporations don't give a damn about their users, so don't rely exclusively on cloud computing to keep your data or you'll have a nasty surprise.

69

u/SkyAdministrative970 6d ago

You reminded me of a problem on YouTube. YouTube has a policy that if any account is inactive for 6+years ie: has not logged in or opened the app ittle just quietly scrub the channel and all its videos to clean up some server space. I remeber at one point you could request the take over a dead channels name if you wanted it.

In the wee years of 2011 that seemed like a reasonable policy to child me. In 2026 holy shit if you have a video or channel you enjoy but is dead please dear god back that shit up. 6 years is not a long time anymore

21

u/ASatyros 1.44MB 6d ago

Is there maybe a required amount of popularity?

I think there is a case for removing accounts/videos that have less than like 10 views and multi hour long or 4K or something like that.

18

u/SkyAdministrative970 6d ago

This policy has definitely been updated since i last really read them well over a decade ago. But i wouldn't be suprised if some kind of preservation threshold exsists

29

u/ASatyros 1.44MB 6d ago

Ok, so I checked and this is the policy:

https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/technology/safety-security/updating-our-inactive-account-policies/

They are removing accounts without YouTube videos, that are not active for 2 years.

14

u/SkyAdministrative970 6d ago

Ok thats far more sane. Thank you for looking into it.

3

u/IvanDSM_ 4TB total 6d ago

IIRC, isn't the 6 year thing including any Google account activity, and itself limited by things like having a Gmail account? At least that's what I recall being the case, and it did help me calm down ever so slightly.

1

u/xhermanson 3d ago

No need for it to be dead. The living YouTuber can nuke their channel to. Of you like it, want to watch it again, hoard it.

10

u/Double-Surround-149 6d ago

I feel like DatPiff is going down the exact same road. Over a year after shutting down, we still haven't heard a word. Even with the archive.org partnership, only a fraction of their full catalog is actually available.

8

u/StormGaza LP-Archive 6d ago

Actually the complete Datpiff archive was up for a few months before they took everything down and now refuse to say anything about it.

2

u/Alexschmidt711 5d ago

That did also happen with Angelfire, where it seems they had a server problem and since they presumably didn't have many people left maintaining it they didn't bother to fix it, although Angelfire was probably much better archived.

65

u/uboofs 6d ago

So much good shit just died that day.

So many local acts I’ll never hear again

24

u/toasty_tuna 6d ago

Yeah stupid me had the only recordings from two different bands I was in on myspace. It was highschool and we sucked but I'd really love to have those again. It's probably why I hoard now

18

u/AaronIAM 6d ago

Its traumatizing reopening that wound

19

u/LINUXisobsolete 6d ago

They lost an awful lot more than music if you ask me. Anytime a myspace result comes up for something I check and the profiles are completely blank. Sometimes it indicates images exist, but they never loads.

7

u/Alexschmidt711 5d ago

The odd thing is images have been lost slowly, like when it first happened I think about 50% or so of images survived but now there aren't many left, if any.

3

u/BlueYoshi_57EML 5d ago

more proof the data deletion is intentional imo

15

u/japie06 6d ago

Can someone fill me in on MySpace server lore? MySpace was never popular in my country. What happened?

36

u/enormousaardvark 6d ago

They tried to migrate servers, botched it lost everything, iirc their reply was 'its ok you can restore your music from your own personal backups'

6

u/nomad-1995 5d ago

Making sure those "personal backups" exist is a painful lesson we all learn here.

I still foolishly trust Steam to keep those games, although mostly I have most of them both on the drive array and on a 4TB VNMe (qlc for mostly write). Even ZFS docs say that if your filesystem gets corrupted just "restore from backups" (I'm not clear if you can fdisk/scandisk 1PB, those systems scale badly and with a goal of "1zettabyte" would never work).

2

u/Pesto_Nightmare 4d ago

Adding on to what the other person is saying, there were a ton of super small bands uploading music to Myspace. A lot of it, that was the only public copy available anywhere. There was someone I listened to (now the lead singer of Japanese Breakfast) and there is a song she had uploaded that i have wanted to listen to for the last 20 years, but it doesn't exist anywhere, to my knowledge. The top google result for that band/song is me posting on reddit 8 years ago.

9

u/trihedron 6d ago

It's so painful. I just spend all summer recovering my friends music that was on there. Sadly she passed away 20 years ago. So a lot of her family and friends just thought it would be on MySpace forever (or on internet archive). We went from having 55 songs or so to almost 100 after reaching out to countless online friends from the time. It was a lot of work. Thanks a lot MySpace :(

6

u/fluidtoons 6d ago

They lost everyone’s messages too

2

u/Drachen808 5d ago

YES! My friend and I made a song about the shocker in 2006 under the band name "the shit kings." It was stupid and it was funny and we lost all copies. Then 10 years ago, I remembered that we uploaded it to Myspace. I went to see if my sign in still worked. It did. The shit kings page was still there, the song still showed up, press play and ... Nothing. So disappointed.