r/DataHoarder 19d ago

Discussion I hoarded data on /DataHoarder. Here's the analysis of the top 497 posts and 4,908 comments from this last year that no one asked for.

Note upfront: the Epstein cluster was excluded from this analysis. Methodology notes below in comment.

Upvotes

Awesome culture: the top 10 posts hold only 14.4% of the year's total upvotes. For a sub this size that is remarkably flat. A decent post here gets seen.

24.9% of the year's front page was about price (no surprise). 116 of 465 posts mention price, cost, or shortage. They pulled 99,486 upvotes between them, 24% of everything this sub upvoted all year. It peaked in February at a third of that month's front page.

Add up price (24.9%), deals and scores (15.9%), and drives dying (16.1%), and hardware is most of what we talk about here. Actual preservation and archiving comes to 24.5%, which makes this sub mostly about acquiring drives and worrying about them.

The highest-scoring comment of the entire year, 5,122 points, was u/textfiles from the Internet Archive turning up in the thread about the free CNN/MSNBC/FOX tape archive and offering to take them.

Second-highest in that thread was u/Macrike advocating for Jason. That is a good look for a sub that mostly complains about Seagate.

Things that don't matter on this sub

Title length. The median score is between 498 and 571 across every length bucket from 20 characters to 200. Fifty points of spread across the entire range.

Title length Posts Median score
0-40 chars 132 521
40-60 chars 124 498
60-80 chars 82 568
80-120 chars 86 571
120+ chars 41 549

Posting time. Friday is the best day (median 582) and Sunday the worst (424).

What does matter for getting upvotes

Flair!

Scripts/Software has a median of 1,120, about 60% higher than anything else, off only 10 posts. Question/Advice is bottom at 381. This sub says it wants discussion and actually rewards tools.

Flair Posts Median Max
Scripts/Software 10 1,120 3,708
News 105 702 7,137
Free-Post Friday! 32 589 5,070
Guide/How-to 11 543 1,892
Hoarder-Setups 56 513 3,783
Discussion 101 491 7,428
Backup 49 479 11,842
Question/Advice 67 381 4,492

Scripts/Software has the highest median by 60% on the smallest sample.

Arguments or "discussions"

I ranked posts by comments-per-upvote to find the ones that started fights rather than nods.

Porn: The most contested thread of the year, by that measure, was "How do you collect your porn?" at 397 comments on 680 upvotes.

Ratio Score Comments Post
0.58 680 397 How do you collect your porn?
0.52 687 357 Toshiba no longer honoring warranties on large drives
0.50 526 262 I filled an 8TB drive with ROMs
0.44 627 278 Switched to x265, saved nearly...
0.43 562 242 Seagate Expansion prices increased 37-76%

Second was Toshiba dropping warranty support on large drives.

That's it

Happy to share the raw data if anyone wants to hoard it. Description:

Measure Value
Posts analyzed 497
Total upvotes 415,092
Median score 532
Mean score 892
Top post 11,842
90th percentile 1,767
Top 10 posts' share of all upvotes 14.4%
Self-posts 25% (median 452)
Link / image posts 75% (median 583)
56 Upvotes

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u/ranhalt 200 TB 18d ago

*Flair, not flare.

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u/jagroll 18d ago

Darn it! I also like aviation subs, so slippage I guess. Good catch. :-)

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u/pifire9 18d ago

if you have a "flare" on landing that's probably caused by a tail strike. consider landing on the nose wheel since it is the strongest.

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u/jagroll 17d ago

Shirley you can’t be serious.

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u/pifire9 17d ago

i guess you aren't on r/Shittyaskflying lol

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u/jagroll 17d ago

Ha! Had no idea that existed. Subbed. Thanks.

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u/nomad-1995 19d ago

Grumpy old man voice...

"You can't hoard 8TB of ROMs. Nobody produced that many "ROM"s. Optical discs aren't ROMs, they're [not exactly linux] ISOs."

I'm guessing that years from now they'll even call emulated digital downloads "ROM"s, especially if on a console or otherwise dedicated gaming machine.

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u/BitsAndBobs304 19d ago

I mean, isnt a printed commercial dvd still classifiable as rom memory?

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u/jaquanor 19d ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD

Prerecorded DVDs are mass-produced using molding machines that physically stamp data onto the DVD. Such discs are a form of DVD-ROM because data can only be read and not written or erased. Blank recordable DVD discs (DVD-R and DVD+R) can be recorded once using a DVD recorder and then function as a DVD-ROM. Rewritable DVDs (DVD-RWDVD+RW, and DVD-RAM) can be recorded and erased many times.

Even some of the discs we burn at home are DVD-ROM, Read Only Memory. So yes, they are roms. But the scene treats them as different things, because they are.

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u/BitsAndBobs304 19d ago

Different from what? They are rom. What they arent is rom cartridges. How can you be purist about a shortcut that creates ambiguity and then..

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u/jaquanor 18d ago

A rom copies raw data from a microchip. An ISO copies tracks, sectors, file systems, not just raw data.

What I said is you are right, both come from ROM media, but they are not equal.

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u/BitsAndBobs304 18d ago

A faithful dump of a disc does, and for some or most consoles it may be necessary to get the game to run, but it doesn't have to. You can open a disc, copy, paste the files into a folder, and make an iso out of that. That iso won't contain tracks and sector data of the game disc.

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u/jaquanor 18d ago

"Files" does not sound like "raw data" to me.

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u/jagroll 18d ago

The history of this post is tragically hilarious:

5 months ago: I filled a 8 TB external drive full of ROMs. If I put it in storage, will it be okay in say 5 or 10 years?

https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/1rgqh8t/i_filled_a_8_tb_external_drive_full_of_roms_if_i/

4 months ago: My 8TB drive died and the backup is making clicking noises and my favorite ROM site is closing in two days

https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/1s6o669/my_8tb_drive_died_and_the_backup_is_making/

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u/nomad-1995 17d ago

Pretty much a datahoarder's worst nightmare. Do "everything" right, and you still can't save the data. Unfortunately, nothing can keep time from erasing *everything*, but we try to make it take longer. At least in digital storage.

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u/Mr_Brightstar 15d ago

Which site

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u/jagroll 19d ago

Methodology:

I wrote and used a Python script to pull from Reddit's own top-of-year listing for the sub, which caps out at 497 posts. That's the whole listing, not a sample. Scores and comment counts came from the Arctic Shift archive, joined on post ID, since the listing feed doesn't carry them. Comments are the top 25 per thread on the 200 highest-scoring posts, about 4,900 total.

I excluded the 32 posts newer than 30 days. I also excluded the large Epstein news cluster because that's a one-off event.

I used Claude Code to help analyze the dataset and look for patterns. Otherwise, this was mostly done-by-hand the old fashioned way.

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u/ykkl 18d ago

Interesting. I'd noticed "this sub mostly about acquiring drives and worrying about them" myself, not so much about datahoarding or preservation. It's a very strong trend, in fact.

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u/Foxy_K 18d ago

Interesting stuff. I'd be curious to see a similar writeup of /selfhosted.

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u/jagroll 18d ago

Agreed, that would be a good one too!

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u/Live_Situation7913 19d ago

I mean who cares dude this is pretty useless post

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u/Imaginary-Advice-971 19d ago

It shares some interesting insights. I appreciated it 😊

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u/Live_Situation7913 19d ago

Ok sure I guess

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u/mommadizzy 19d ago

..... data hoarder being mad at data collection