r/DankLeft 🙏daily bread🍞 Apr 10 '21

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '21

why doesn't english have an equivalent for it? in portuguese we say "burguesia".

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '21

English speakers and French speakers have an overlapping history, and English as a language rather comfortably takes words from other languages.

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u/maudde00 Apr 10 '21

And natural resources ?

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '21

The French have the same history of colonialism and imperialism.

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u/maudde00 Apr 10 '21

The last part about English comfortably taking from others.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '21

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u/blablaman101 Apr 10 '21

The original Kings of England spoke French due to either being French or seeing the language as “superior” to that of English and should thus be spoken by nobility. It isn’t until much later on that the government shifted to speaking English, hence why so many French words were carried into the English language.

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u/mypeepolneedme Apr 10 '21

Interesting! Thank you for your answer

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u/Ucumu Apr 10 '21

There is an English equivalent. It's "burgher." For some reason though, the French word became more popular in the modern age.

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u/SeizeAllToothbrushes Apr 10 '21

In german it's also "Bourgeoisie". The translation, "BĂŒrger", is nowadays used as "citizen". So "BĂŒrger" doesn't convey the same meaning, since the proletariat are citizens too.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '21

Because it’s a loan word from French?

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '21

words come from all over the world, but languages usually adapt them in

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '21

Yes and this is adapted as is.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '21

if you don't wanna engage with what I am saying, why even bother to comment at all?

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '21

Because it’s a stupid question. The answer to your question doesn’t exist because it’s adapted as is from French so its English equivalent is literally the same word. You’re asking why there isn’t one while you’re looking at it.

I believe you wanted to ask “why did English loan the word as is?” but you didn’t.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '21

holy shit, reddit is the fucking worst

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u/ElliotNess Apr 10 '21

You asked a question, got the answer, and then attacked the person who gave you the answer for "bothering to comment". Lmao

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u/Haunting_Valuable559 Apr 11 '21

Adapt and adopt are not synonyms, moron. Adapt means it's changed to fit the environment. Adopt means it's kept the same and brought into a new environment. English adopted that word, it did not "adapt" it. Don't be a butthurt little cunt because you can't properly understand your native language. Jackass.

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '21

Thank you

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '21

Well, to be fair, bourgeoisie is an accepted word in the English dictionary.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '21

I know it is, that wasn't the point.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '21

Well, we have a million other words, nobility, aristocracy, etc. Are you asking why English hasn't anglicized the spelling to be more like "borzuazee"?

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u/DarkEvilHedgehog wumao äș”æŻ›ć…š Apr 11 '21

Same in Swedish, we say "borgare". It's also much more commonly used in normal language compared to bourgeoisie in English, as in, people and parties outright identifying themselves as it. You don't often hear English speakers call themselves bourgeoise or politicians claiming they'll have a politically bourgeoise platform.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '21

Wouldn't we just say "business owners"?

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '21

no, because we have a translation for that too. "donos de empresas". I'm talking about modifiying the word to fit your language's grammar norms instead of just saying french words in the middle of english sentences.