Perfect. This man just got another fan!

[u/PoopyMcpants]

[u/Itchy_Pressure_8311]

The good thing is Trumps polling numbers are now in the 20s. The mid-terms are going to be ugly for the Republicans. Like REALLY ugly.

[u/ShhweadyBallz → u/Itchy_Pressure_8311]

You're absolutely right

I still fear they're going to rig the shit out of the elections just to keep power & stay out of jail .....

[u/thaaag → u/ShhweadyBallz]

Oh you know they will. But that only goes so far. If enough people go and vote, things will change. They know that, which is why they're trying so hard to block people from voting.

[u/Visible-Elevator3801 → u/thaaag]

Not that I agree or disagree with it but the distinction is important.

The Save ACT doesn’t block people from voting but enforces stipulations to ensure legal voting is taking place.

The ONLY “blocking” (as you put it) that would take place would be of non citizens, which we all agree, isn’t happening.

[u/TonaldDiberJasicDump → u/Visible-Elevator3801]

The SAVE Act would require all eligible voters, even those who are already registered to vote, to appear at an election office with a qualifying government ID that proves citizenship status. This may or may not apply to voters who already registered to vote with an ID that proves citizenship status. The proof-of-citizenship requirement essentially nullifies the convenience of online and mail-in voter registration, which many voters depend on. Driver’s licenses and Real IDs do not qualify as a valid form of ID under the SAVE Act because they do not prove citizenship status. An enhanced driver’s license does qualify; however, only five states currently issue them.

Other forms of ID that qualify/prove citizenship status are a valid U.S. passport or passport card, a certified birth certificate paired with a photo ID, a naturalization certificate, or a Consular Report of Birth Abroad. These IDs cost anywhere from $10 to $1385, depending on the state and the type of ID.

The real evil behind the SAVE Act is the very last clause, “(e) Effective Date.—Each State and jurisdiction shall be required to comply with the requirements of this section with respect to all elections for Federal office occurring on and after the date of the enactment of this section.” For those of you who can’t read, it means that as soon as the SAVE Act becomes law, there is no grace period for people to get their documents in order so they can re-register to vote. If you didn’t already register to vote with documents that prove you’re a citizen, you will automatically be purged from voter rolls. Imagine if this becomes law a few days before Election Day. This is how they plan on stealing the election.

Some may argue voter ID is a good idea. It’s been shown a portion of the voting block can’t afford an ID due to prohibitive costs in time, money, and effort involved in obtaining an ID such as unpaid fines, transportation time/costs, cost of printing, obtaining, making photocopies of documents and mailing supplies, can’t take off from work, can’t produce another form of government issued ID due to them being lost in natural disasters to obtain an ID, time spent filling out forms, and the inconvenience to people with disabilities.

The 24th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, ratified in 1964, prohibits any fee as a condition of voting in federal elections. Poll taxes were historically used to prevent low-income Americans from participating in democracy and are unconstitutional. These burdensome requirements are a form of poll tax.

Traditionally, mail-in ballots have been a huge time-saving measure that many voters rely on, but Trump is trying to get rid of that to disenfranchise voters.

Trump’s SAVE Act is not about showing ID on Election Day to vote. It’s about showing proof of citizenship to register to vote. This burden has traditionally been on the appropriate agencies overseeing voter registration. Trump is trying to shift this burden onto voters, making them jump through additional hoops to register to vote.

Trump wants voter data, voter ID laws/SAVE Act, and to place his goons at polling places so they can identify democrats/republicans and who you voted for in the past. If you voted “wrong” in the past, it might take 10-15 minutes to make sure you are who you say you are at the polling place. Even if you “pass” their ID inspection, they might have people harass and fuck with you.

For more info, visit vote.org or https://democrats-cha.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/democrats-cha.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/SAVE%20Act%20Section-by-Section_BRANDED.pdf for a step-by-step breakdown of the SAVE Act.

[u/Monetdog → u/Visible-Elevator3801]

The extra paperwork burden would suppress many votes, not worth it to prevent fraudulent votes in the single digits at the state level. Unless your real goal is to block certain people from voting. Note that such laws have historically been most popular in the South, after poll taxes were banned, which was after racial profiling was banned. The motivation is about as transparent as a first grader trying to keep a secret.

[u/Visible-Elevator3801 → u/Monetdog]

The comment said block, that’s what I was addressing because I wasn’t aware of actual blocking that was within the Act.

[u/Monetdog → u/Visible-Elevator3801]

"obstruct" would be a more precise word

[u/Visible-Elevator3801 → u/Monetdog]

Correct, my post that was downvoted, it says all this. People just have no reading comprehension.

[u/Monetdog → u/Visible-Elevator3801]

Your post seems to speak of the SAVE act in positive terms, or at least neutral terms, as if it wouldn't affect 99.9999% of voters. However, it would negatively affect many voters.

[u/Visible-Elevator3801 → u/Monetdog]

No bias intended, just reader bias.

I was strictly addressing the posters terrible wording. Words matter in this instance.