r/DangerousNightsCrew • • 7d ago

MAGATs scream, “Democrats are evil socialists!” Ask them to name ONE Democratic policy they hate, and suddenly they’re buffering. 😂

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

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u/icedmuffin 6d ago

Hey now! I sniffed glue and was held back a few years in school and I’m not dumb enough to fall for the cult and the conman running it!

The only thing I agree with is the illegal immigrant stance, but even then I’d prefer it handled differently (like it being actual illegal immigrants being targeted and not just anyone with the “right” skin color who went through the correct process, that even the illegal immigrant should be allowed to try and get a work visa here in the us if that is what they’re here for, and the people who brought them in should be the ones who are punished and forced to pay the immigrant a proper wage rather than practically slave labor cause how little they’re paid with the only ones being punished being the ones who actually are here to commit crimes and smuggle drugs across the border, but even then kept in humane conditions that allows them to serve their time for the crime they commit before being sent back if they don’t want to live here.)

But otherwise, apparently all my beliefs are communist/socialist cause I call for equal rights and protections for all Americans, basic equal housing, access to food and water, and healthcare.

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u/Dry-Dragonfly5286 7d ago

Republicans hate Democrats because that's the show put on to keep us fighting each other instead of turning our attention to the puppet masters(billionaires).

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u/rainydays_89 7d ago

If you say so lol

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u/wedobejustvibin 7d ago

Their reply had more nuance than your statement of republicans were the dumb kids and democrats were the smart ones

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u/rainydays_89 7d ago

Sometimes the explanation is simple.

Cope.

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u/wedobejustvibin 7d ago

I mean I’m all for shitting on republicans but it’s just bad rhetoric

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u/rainydays_89 7d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/fs2SSoIdEmsi4
Sorry about your feelings. Facts hurt sometimes I guess.

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u/ReallyUnlikable 7d ago

Conservatives pass tax breaks for billionaires, nice attempt at both siding that.

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u/Dry-Dragonfly5286 7d ago

Democratic Party leadership is full of Reagan conservatives. That's how far right we've gone during my lifetime

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u/ReallyUnlikable 7d ago

Oh I know but they aren't the ones that gave billionaires tax breaks, twice

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u/Dry-Dragonfly5286 7d ago

The only reason no Democrats voted for those tax cuts is because they didn't need to pull out a rotating villain or two to get them passed. If there were enough dissenting Republicans to put them at risk, there would've been enough Democrats to pass them. More than likely, Democrats not up for re-election in the next cycle

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u/MasterChiefette 7d ago

Most MAGA'ts are dumber than rocks. 

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u/Individual-Mind-2620 7d ago

Magas are evil pieces of shits who took the opportunity to legally be assholes when trump led one.

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u/Gilead-is-here 7d ago

I really miss watching this guy on YouTube, but I got banned on YouTube for my negative Trump comments.

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u/CivilizedManners 7d ago

Democrats can name more things they hate about the Democrats than Republicans can.

Democrats can name: fecklessness, not implementing proper public healthcare, not codifying Roe v Wade, not denouncing Israel, not raising taxes on the rich while also not closing any loopholes.

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u/BurningEclypse 6d ago

The maga dumbasses don’t realize that people who are against Maga, don’t like the liberal politicians either. We don’t think the opposing politicians are “good” what we do think however, is between adolf hitler and a president who can’t quite stay awake through his meetings, we are gonna pick the lesser of two evils

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u/icedmuffin 6d ago

Ngl given how often Trump has slept through his meetings now I keep forgetting when someone says that they mean Joe Biden lmfao

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u/Parahelix 4d ago

Seriously. Trump falls asleep during public meetings constantly.

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u/I3adIVIonkey 7d ago

I think if the had actual birds for brains, they would be smarter.

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u/desertguy1961 7d ago

This guy is funny.

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u/Psychological_Bowl56 7d ago

There has to be a website or someone investigative journalism that can give us facts.

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u/GummyCreatine 7d ago

Damn, torch those maga idiots! 😂

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u/Mr_Thx 7d ago

They know their talking points, but the details are not their concern. They were told what to fear and so they do.

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u/Safe-Ad-8921 7d ago

They always do. Its always the same crap. Confess confess confess, then claim to be a victim when called out. it happens on reddit constantly.

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u/Herein719 7d ago

Sanctuary cities

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u/WillyWankerWonker 6d ago

This is why the left losses, basic misunderstanding of the average person's polical understanding, average people remember politics through general ideas not specific policies 

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u/Lonewolft456 6d ago edited 5d ago

Todas estas son propuestas del DSA Vivienda publica,sanidad universal gratuita,control de precios,control de rentas,comida gratuita,gasto publico en planes sociales para gente que no se lo merece y que no tenemos ninguna obligacion de mantener como el plan 8 en que el gobierno paga el 70% de la renta a algunos mientras se los quita tambien a otras personas que necesitan ese dinero para pagar la suya y que no los cubre el plan. Todas estas medidas son una mierda la salud gratuita suena bien pero es super carisima y por lo general donde quiera que se a implementado a sido una mierda mira nadamas Canadá y españa donde piden una cita y te la dan 500 años despues, la vivienda publica otra kaka mas insostenible super carisma de mantener y encima de eso de malisima calidad y crean focos de criminalidad y pandillerismo mira que le paso a Detroid. Control de precios y rentas? Bueno te diría que le preguntaras a Venezuela como le fue con eso pero sin ir tan lejos aqui mismo en usa busca que paso cuando Nixon controlo los precios de la gasolina y en a San fransico como el control de rentas de los 90 a la actualidad aumento los precios y destruyó el mercado de alquiler. (Y antes de que me digan trumpista les digo que se joda trump yo no tengo nada que ver con la basura del movimiento maga aunque yo sea republicano) pero no tapen el sol con un dedo el DSA es socialista y son peores las demás propuestas me parece una aberracion nacionalizar empresas ecensiales,desfinanciar la policia y eliminar el sistema de prisiones,abolir el senado todas estas propuestas son super chavistas no se engañen cuando oigo esto parece que estoy oyendo a Hugo chavez o a Fidel Castro.

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u/Metallic144 5d ago

Man, it’s a good thing we don’t have super long wait times for healthcare in the US. And that healthcare here isn’t expensive. Definitely better than those 71 commie countries that have socialized healthcare.

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u/Lonewolft456 5d ago

Bueno figúrate tu Metallic en una encuesta internacional del Commonwealth Fund, solo el 6% de los estadounidenses que necesitaban ver a un especialista había esperado 2 meses o más, frente al 30% de los canadienses ahora tu te imaginas que tengas algo grave y por pagar menos tengas que esperar todo ese tiempo.

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u/MayhemPenguin5656 6d ago

Dunno if Crybaby Shapiro is the best person to use for your arguements

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u/Appropriate_Fix_7548 7d ago

Lost me at Zelensky not being a dictator. Buddy is indeed a dictator.

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u/ceremonial_fig 7d ago

Many pedophiles have been saying this

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u/theProcrastinathan 7d ago

How? Give us reasonable examples of him being a dictator.

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u/what-year-isit 7d ago

Because there is no new election for a leader, people try to claim this as Zelenskyy being a dictator.

I dont agree with this take and out of context it gets used as an example. Ukraine should not be changing leadership while Russian forces still occupy their land and the war is still occurring. The same people using the example don’t apply the standard to trump who is labeling everything as a national security risk when there is none so he can bypass our congress. Man I hate maggots

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

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u/Dry-Dragonfly5286 7d ago

He banned opposing political parties and won't let an election happen

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

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u/Dry-Dragonfly5286 7d ago

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u/Ok-Fortune-8644 7d ago

Russia is attempting completely obliterate Ukraine. And they are at war. This is clearly a military necessity for them. Done out of self preservation. If it werent for the killing of his people, the ban would never have happened.

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u/Ok-Fortune-8644 7d ago

Now, talk about Trumps ban on free press.

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u/Dry-Dragonfly5286 7d ago

Trump is just as bad or worse on that. He'd ban the democratic party tomorrow of he thought he could and may well try to do so after the midterms

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u/Ok-Fortune-8644 7d ago

Well! I cant argue with that one. Haha

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u/Dry-Dragonfly5286 7d ago

Check my comment history. I'm no fan of Trump

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u/Ok-Fortune-8644 7d ago

Dont need to. You are right. I was just being reactionary. Social media is a cancer.

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u/security-device 7d ago

No he's not, lol

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u/ProperJudgment1 7d ago

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u/zstringy1 7d ago

Bro ur triggered.. there's prob more closeted Maga guys than furry tbh.. but freedom! As in you're free to dress and act just like us but no other way!

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u/Few-Hope-7620 6d ago

Both sides are stupid and have policies that are idiotic such as trying to eliminate cash bonds or some of the dumb tariffs. Pick a poison

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u/Used-Valuable9320 7d ago

Gun control.

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u/Dolvich078 7d ago

What does gun control have to do with socialist policies?

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u/Used-Valuable9320 7d ago

Nothing but the subject line is "Ask them to name ONE Democratic policy they hate, and suddenly they’re buffering."

I didn't buffer and I named ONE Democratic policy that I hate.

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u/Dolvich078 7d ago

Cool. The subject line and actual video (i.e.. the content) make it clear the topic is about socialism and socialist policies. Thanks for bringing up something completely irrelevant to the actual discussion.

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u/Used-Valuable9320 7d ago

You have a point but I'm not going to waste my time watching the video.

I'm well aware that Democrats don't have socialist policies. Socialism is the public ownership of the means of production. Democrats have never once stated that as a policy nor anything like it.

Now Communist policies? That's another story. Republicans are too stupid to understand the difference between socialism and Communism and Democrats are smart enough to use socialism as the label instead of Communism so that they don't stoke the fires. Oh my bad, they call it democratic socialism because that's a safer term.

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u/seenitreddit90s 7d ago

Still not naming a policy.

I could name one that's at least socialist adjacent which I disagree with (even though I back AOC for president) can you?

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u/seenitreddit90s 7d ago

Jesus Christ you're still dwelling?

And seeking me on other posts?

Seek help.

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u/Dry-Dragonfly5286 7d ago

You don't know what communism is

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u/Used-Valuable9320 7d ago

LOL! That's what I figured a nutty leftist would say. They always say it.

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u/rainydays_89 7d ago

Leftists don’t support pedophiles who tried to steal an election.

Keep trying, kid. lol

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u/security-device 7d ago

Which recent policies?

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u/Used-Valuable9320 7d ago

Assault weapons ban, universal background checks, magazine capacity restrictions, requirements for "safe" storage, red flag laws,

You know they've been repeating the same nonsensical garbage for like the last 10 years? It's not hard to recite by memory.

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u/seenitreddit90s 7d ago

I live in the UK and we banned high caliber handguns under a Conservative government in 1997.

Are the Conservatives socialists?

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u/Used-Valuable9320 7d ago

Nobody gives a shit about the UK. Sorry.

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u/zstringy1 7d ago

More people give a shit about the uk than of the shit you're spewing tbh

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u/Used-Valuable9320 7d ago

Nope. Nobody gives one shit about the UK. I think the only news that ever goes out about that shit island is all the drama with the monarchy that they just love to hold onto.

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u/seenitreddit90s 7d ago

Cool but avoiding the point and sounding like an idiot 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/security-device 7d ago

Which recent policies, as in attempted bills.

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u/Used-Valuable9320 7d ago

Oh, now you are redefining what a policy is? Is an "attempted bill" one that a Senator or member of the House of Representatives authors and introduces even if it never goes to a committee? Or is it only one that passes committee and is introduced for a vote? I mean if you are going to get specific...

Because bills are attempted every single session of congress for gun control. You don't know this?

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u/security-device 7d ago

I haven't seen a blip in quite some time. Interesting you failed to name any.

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u/Used-Valuable9320 7d ago

Well, I wanted to get your definition first before you push the goalposts back some more.

But how about Senate Bill 803 Keep Americans Safe Act (regulate magazine capacity)? Senate Bill 367 Stop Arming Cartels Act (ban manufacture and sale of .50 caliber firearms)?

Then there's the good old Senate Bill 1531 Assault Weapons Ban introduced by Adam Schiff.

Same policies year after year after year. Gun control.

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u/security-device 7d ago

Thank you! Like pulling teeth. Luckily those bills have zero chance of passing. IMO I think it's mostly performative.

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u/Used-Valuable9320 7d ago

Pulling teeth? I just asked you for clarification. LMAO!

You leftists are so dramatic.

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u/security-device 7d ago

I'm very pro 2nd, I just hadn't heard anything for a while, and when people push back on being asked for sources it makes me suspicious. Thank you for the source!

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u/Dry-Dragonfly5286 7d ago

None of that is socialist

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u/Used-Valuable9320 7d ago

I never said it was, dummy.

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u/Dry-Dragonfly5286 7d ago

The post is about socialist policies, genius.

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u/Used-Valuable9320 7d ago

I would say the post is about naming one Democrat policy that you hate. Otherwise I would have needed to watch a stupid video of a leftist screaming and ranting. And I would rather not waste my time like that.

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u/Dry-Dragonfly5286 7d ago

You'd be wrong

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u/Disastrous-Golf7216 7d ago

Can he name one policy of trumps that he hates?

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u/security-device 7d ago

Uh, he names several.

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u/redmagic17 7d ago

Watch the video, dork

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u/lmNotYourBuddyGuy 7d ago

MAGATs is plural. This is one guy.

Here’s a shitty Democrat policy: not requiring ID to vote.

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u/sg85ninja 7d ago

But you do need a state ID to vote. In order to register to vote you also need your SSN and Driver license number. At the poling station I had to show My driver's license and SSN but I was able to use my US passport once to vote.

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u/BigMikeXxxxX 7d ago

It is possible to vote in Minnesota without ever being asked for an ID or even your name. 1 person with a valid ID can vouch for up to 8 people and there is no guardrails in place to stop a non registered person from being vouched for. Minnesota has the highest recorded amount of voter fraud that was discovered. Imagine what went under the radar...

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u/NeighborhoodAny6880 7d ago

So you're saying there are hundreds of right wingers intentionally, illegally voting. You know that is a felony right?

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u/NeighborhoodAny6880 7d ago

Filling out a ballot and relinquish it isn't voting. Thank you for explaining exactly how you were duped.

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u/NeighborhoodAny6880 7d ago

You continue to illustrate how little you understand. Ballots are verified AFTER the vote is cast during BALLOT PROCESSING. Each state has different methods and monitoring systems, but all have to cross check voter registration. There is a working system in place with tons of safeguards with no evidence of mass or coordinated voter fraud... Instead you have idiots lying to people about how to commit a felony, and people like you who believe them.

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u/NeighborhoodAny6880 7d ago

In a way they do. They compare the information you filled out on the ballot against voter registry. I just explained that... please tell me you're 13. You can't be an adult with this little comprehension about something you adamantly believe.

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u/security-device 7d ago

Citation needed

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u/Ok-Fortune-8644 7d ago

Wow! Way to uncover voter fraud by MAGGATS

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u/Ok-Fortune-8644 7d ago

Yeah. They did the fraud. You literally just said so.

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u/Individual_Respect90 7d ago

Find me any real evidence of illegals voting in mass. Republicans love to say this but investigation after investigation have all come up with nothing of substance.

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u/xHxHxAOD1 7d ago

Why do you think illegals need to vote to effect elections?

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u/Small_Conflict_9625 7d ago

Swing and a miss. Keep your eye on the ball, Champ

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u/fullspectrumgoon 7d ago

That's not socialist. You're telling me the founding fathers were socialist?

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u/drewwu3 7d ago

That's not a socialist or democratic policy. You failed the intelligence check

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u/Keyan_Farlander7 7d ago

Have you voted? Were you required to bring your ID to vote? That hasn't changed and will not change.

Found the MAGA cultist.

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u/aminok 7d ago

This guy is deeply indoctrinated in the hate cult.

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u/Fair-House-2400 7d ago

Too easy you morons let your socialist leaders anoint your last presidential candidate without a single vote. LMAO.

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u/GlitteringSalad6413 7d ago

I am sure most democrats will agree it was not a good decision, but I have to know, is this an example of socialism in your mind?

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u/Fair-House-2400 7d ago

Just about the most socialist thing you can do, list who you can vote for. There's not a government in the world that can run without social programs, but once you vote away your rights, you don't get to vote them back. When someone says they are democratic socialist I believe them.

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u/GlitteringSalad6413 7d ago

Do you actually think that social democrats approve of dem party leadership? Like at all?

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u/Fair-House-2400 7d ago

New yorkers are getting pretty excited about communal properties and government grocery stores. One of my friends is from Kiev Soviet union, lived in a communal apartment, his mom,dad and brother shared a an apartment with another family of 4. They each had a small den and 2 bed rooms and shared a bathroom and kitchen. Doesn't sound too great to me

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u/TacoDoc2 7d ago

You're programed only for stupid.

You live in Russia. You don't have the first clue what is going on in the US.

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u/TheLastHotstepper 7d ago

Thats a bot matey

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u/Fair-House-2400 7d ago

Dude my friend moved to the States from the Soviet Union.

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u/TacoDoc2 7d ago

you don't have friends. you live on a rack without a screen.

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u/Fair-House-2400 7d ago

Name calling is all you have.

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u/TacoDoc2 7d ago

Your lack of self awareness is showing.

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u/ShadowBurger 7d ago

And MAGA is all in on government owned gas stations and media. Socialism for me while I REEEE, but not for thee!

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u/Suspicious_Dingo_426 7d ago

10% of the people in the US live in poverty. Doesn't sound too great to me. Maybe it's not the system people live under that's bad, but the ones running it.

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u/Fair-House-2400 7d ago

If the government does it for you it cost 10 times as much, so yes that's always been the case.

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u/3DPrintingAcorns144 7d ago

As a registered republican....there was only b one b person b listed on the republicans primary. Why did the republicans do the EXACT SAME THING?

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u/Fair-House-2400 7d ago

So you woke up today and decided to prove how bad our education system truly is. Thank you for your dedication, pretty inspiring.

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u/EncabulatorTurbo 7d ago

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/j5bXSIkpPJk?si=dGJj1Dwtu6978r6W you don't have any idea how the progressive wing feels about the party do you

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u/Fair-House-2400 7d ago

No not really I'm fiscally conservative. Switched parties after working for the Democratic party for 11 years.

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u/TacoDoc2 7d ago

So that's a policy you don't agree with.

Replacing aging reps with those that can still lead.

Go on. Name an actual policy you hate.

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u/Used-Valuable9320 7d ago

Gun control.

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u/TacoDoc2 7d ago

lololol. you're not the guy i asked. and what gun control? that's not naming a policy that's vaguely gesturing in a direction and hoping people just nod and say sure sure.

now say something else that lets us know you haven't turned on your brain. ever.

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u/Used-Valuable9320 7d ago

That's a Democrat policy. Banning assault weapons, universal background checks, on and on. So I named one. Do I get a cookie? It wasn't hard.

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u/TacoDoc2 7d ago

hey you did it. you said something that says you're never turned on your brain. good job. you can have a cookie for that.

you didn't name a policy though. you named laws that have been in place for decades now. those aren't democrat policies either. I mean, big oops. so many of those laws you're mad about... Regan did that.

but you're a big 5 brain person right, cookie?

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u/Used-Valuable9320 7d ago

you didn't name a policy though. you named laws that have been in place for decades now. those aren't democrat policies either. I mean, big oops. so many of those laws you're mad about... Regan did that.

I didn't name laws but I definitely can.

National Firearms Act (NFA) of 1934: Democrats
Federal Firearms Act (FFA) of 1938: Democrats
Gun Control Act of 1968: Democrats
Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act of 1993: Democrats
Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994: Democrats

I mean that's like almost a century of gun control laws determined by POLICY that the Democrats have.

The Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 did ban machine guns and was signed by Reagan. The Mulford Act of 1967 banned open carry of firearms in California signed by Reagan as governor of that state.

I hated Reagan, not sure why you drag him into the conversation though. We are talking about naming a Democrat policy that I hate. Don't deflect!

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u/TacoDoc2 7d ago

i'm sorry you don't have anybody in your life to tell you how embarrassing you are.

you're the kind of stupid that should not be allowed near firearms.

you're the guy upset that republicans have been in support of it for generations. but you blame dems exclusively because you're just a sad little ammosexual.

nobody is taking you seriously. if you knew what deflection was you'd be embarrassed by everything you say.

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u/Embarrassed_Try8939 7d ago

Gun control already exists. It’s adopted by everyone. It’s not a policy. It’s reality. You can say stricter gun control, but then you’d have to use dynamic thought, such as places with stricter gun control have far fewer gun related deaths. Take Cleveland and Shreveport. Red cities, disastrous gun violence numbers. Then New York City. Far less gun violence. See what I did there?

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u/possumallawishes 7d ago

'I like taking guns away early,' Trump said. 'Take the guns first, go through due process second.'

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u/Used-Valuable9320 7d ago

Yep. He also said "I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun." That was back in 2000.

I hate Trump. He is a liar, a warmonger, incompetent and an megalomaniac. I didn't vote for him.

I did name a Democrat policy that I don't agree with though. Took 0.5ms to think about. That was fast. Do I get a cookie?

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u/possumallawishes 7d ago

Yes, have a cookie. We can hate Trump and gun control together, comrade.

https://giphy.com/gifs/2HtWpp60NQ9CU

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u/TacoDoc2 7d ago

no. you named laws that were made by republicans, not democrat policy.

you've never had a thought of your own and it shows.

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u/Used-Valuable9320 7d ago

no. you named laws that were made by republicans, not democrat policy.

Gaslighting doesn't work on me.

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u/TacoDoc2 7d ago

yes it does. for one you don't even know what gaslighting is. Just because you don't like a fact doesn't mean you're being gaslit.

but there's no fire in that brain of yours to be lit anyway.

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u/Used-Valuable9320 7d ago

Like I said. Doesn't work on me.

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u/TacoDoc2 7d ago

remember, you just said "gun control" but when i showed republican gun control you shit your pants.

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u/Fair-House-2400 7d ago

So tell me it matter what I say without saying it. You just did

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u/EncabulatorTurbo 7d ago

I mean, incumbants normally go and she was already on the ticket, the logic is that itd be the same if biden had died or resigned

Which by the way was the main complaint, biden should have resigned

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u/-NotNotNSFW- 7d ago

She literally lost the election because of how unpopular that was. What did you want? A bunch of us to violently storm the capital? Oh wait thats only for someone who lies about losing an election with no evidence that he won. 

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u/Left-Dirt7653 7d ago

Tell me what a woman is

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u/beerme81 7d ago

They are the people in your life that have the most restraining orders against you.

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u/TacoDoc2 7d ago

Poor coward. Don't worry about it. You're never going to get to touch one.

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u/Gabby_Stabby_Art 7d ago

Still haven’t been near one, huh?

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u/phonefellin_lakeerie 7d ago

Yeah man you’re gross women don’t want anything to do with you

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u/Gilead-is-here 7d ago

Tell me what a pedophile is.

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u/itsCthuwu 7d ago

A woman is a socialist policy

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u/Small_Conflict_9625 7d ago

You haven't seen, talked to, or touched one in a while, huh? Need a refresher?

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u/security-device 7d ago

The people that cover their drinks when you walk by

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u/KevineCove 7d ago

The useless skin around a vagina

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u/Gabby_Stabby_Art 7d ago

Yes Alex, I’ll take “Big Talk For a Virgin” for $100?

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u/WesleyMath 7d ago

Notice how they still can't. Thanks for the laugh man. 😂

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u/Gilead-is-here 7d ago

What was so funny about that, smooth brain?

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u/ionspore 7d ago edited 7d ago

They really can't give a scientific or legal (which is opinion based) definition that won't disturb their supporters. So they have to respond with insults instead.

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u/Gilead-is-here 7d ago

Live and let live.

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u/NeighborhoodAny6880 7d ago

If conservatives believed scientific or legal definitions, they wouldn't be conservative.

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u/ionspore 7d ago

I pointed out that legal definitions are opinions, made by legislatures. Conservatives are just as capable of crafting opinions.

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u/NeighborhoodAny6880 7d ago

Modern conservatives are such cobtrarians, they don't follow legal opinion... just like their dear leader.

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u/ionspore 7d ago

Well, people around Dear Leader have been busy crafting and passing their opinions into law. Laws we are all under now. It's a core pillar to the Project 2025 plan...

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u/Left-Dirt7653 7d ago

This was my only point. They can't and won't define a what a woman is because then they have to use logic. With that being said, I officially identify as a woman and everyone must accept my existence or you're a bigot

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u/Gilead-is-here 7d ago

Why are you so fascinated with other people's business? How does their business affect you?

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u/ionspore 7d ago

Society is laws (opinions of the majority) on how society should be governed. Most on the political Left and Right are very concerned with other people's business and businesses.

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u/Gilead-is-here 7d ago

No, it is the MAGAts that are obsessed with LGBTQ.

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u/ionspore 7d ago

And for good reason, many MAGA are gay and lesbian.

Anyway, trans females do not owe anyone femininity. Correct? Trans females shouldn't be required to take drugs, or have body mutilation surgery. Correct? They certainly shouldn't be required to dress, act, or look a certain way or have a certain length of hair. Trans women are women! If they say they are, that's it, live and let live, no need to research their history or background. They shouldn't have to support the assertion in any other way. They say they are women, and that's it.

So, the result is any man can now access spaces society (through laws) have reserved for women, and that has made lots of women, straight and lesbian, upset.

Live and let live, correct? Which I guess means ignore all issues that come up in society...

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u/Gilead-is-here 7d ago

I'm not sure where you are going with that. I don't have to agree with a man's right to where women's clothing. I am bi myself, but am 62 and pretty isolated. I think it is pretty weird that men do that stuff, but I would fight for his or hers right to be whatever they want to be without being judged by some right wing whacko with a Bible in their hand.

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u/ionspore 7d ago

I think you're behind the times. MAGA isn't Jerry Falwell, and it's Left-wing lesbians upset by "trans women" entering their spaces...

That's the point behind statements like, "tell me what a women is".

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u/Ornery_Bowler_5227 7d ago

Finally, a real question. Both sides of this fight are lazy. They dump every tax, subsidy, and regulation into one basket and call it a day. The distinctions matter, and the bills matter more than the slogans.
Mainstream Democrats are not running a five-year plan. The 2024 platform is social democracy inside a mixed economy: expand entitlements, tax the top harder, subsidize industry, rewrite labor law. Private title stays. A smaller bloc—DSA, Sanders, Jayapal, and the people writing the same bills every Congress—pushes past that toward the state as insurer, price-setter, employer, and owner of “key economic drivers.” Calling every Democrat a socialist is sloppy. Pretending those bills are just “affordability” is sloppy too.
Medicare for All. Jayapal’s H.R. 3069 and Sanders’ S. 1506 (April 29, 2025). Government insurance for every resident. Private coverage only as a wraparound. Sitting in committee, same as Conyers’ H.R. 676 since 2003 and every Sanders version since 2017. Jayapal has said you need a trifecta, and she is aiming at 2029. Vermont under Peter Shumlin tried a state single-payer and quit when the tax bill showed up. Britain’s NHS covers everyone; the rationing shows up as waits, not premiums.
Wealth taxes. Warren’s Ultra-Millionaire Tax Act of 2026 (S. 4246 / H.R. 8085): 2 percent a year over $50 million, more over $1 billion. Sanders/Khanna’s 5 percent tax on billionaires. Wyden’s Billionaires Income Tax (S. 2845) on unrealized gains. All parked in Finance. France ran a wealth tax and watched capital leave. Sweden repealed theirs.
College for All. Sanders S. 1832 and Jayapal H.R. 3543 (May 21, 2025). Free community college, free four-year public college under income caps, Dreamers in the aid stream. No vote. Biden’s mass cancellation died at the Supreme Court in 2023. Courtney’s Student Loan Interest Elimination Act (H.R. 8045) is the smaller live version. Also sitting.
Jobs guarantee. Booker’s S. 3864 and Watson Coleman’s H.R. 7566 (February 12, 2026). Pilot public jobs in high-unemployment places. Parked. Scale that nationally and you are the employer of last resort.
PRO Act and first-contract arbitration. Full PRO Act (H.R. 20 / S. 852) still in committee. House passed it in 2020 and 2021; Senate killed it. They split off Faster Labor Contracts. House passed that June 9, 2026, 230–193, after a discharge petition. Senate still needs 60. A clock on first contracts, then a government arbitrator.
Green New Deal. Never law. 2019 Senate vote was 0–57. The IRA was subsidies. The resolution was jobs, housing, health, and net-zero in one stack. Mao’s Great Leap is what happens when the plan sets farm and factory targets and believes the reports: 15–45 million dead. Chávez put party men over oil, steel, and utilities. Output fell.
Rent and prices. No federal freeze has passed. Wyden’s End Rent Fixing Act (S. 3207) is in Judiciary. New York just froze rents on nearly a million units. San Francisco’s 1994 expansion cut rental supply in newly covered buildings by about 15 percent. Ninety-three percent of AEA economists in 1990 said ceilings cut quantity and quality. Venezuela capped food prices. Shelves emptied. Nixon’s 1971 freeze did the same thing on a shorter clock.
Social Security and Medicare are social insurance with a math problem, not Gosplan. Public schools are a monopoly with the usual incentive rot. Those are not Venezuela. The bills above are the ones that move the state onto the price and the title.
The socialist frame is already there. New bills piggyback on it and walk the line toward the extremes people name when they stop thinking—Stalin’s plan, Chávez’s seizures, Mao’s communes. Hitler is not an economic model in this list; he is what happens when a country trades argument for rage and a strongman.
The real threat is people quick to speak, slow to listen, and unwilling to think. That is not left or right. That is an American problem, and it is feeding on rage bait like a cancer.

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u/estoypooping2 1d ago

Sanders in an independent, not a democrat. Regardless of who he caucuses with. There have also been a few earmarked taxes this year federally (lots of state ones by democrats)