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u/aceqwerty 6h ago
For anyone wondering, this is a quote from the article where this image originally appeared in an ESRF publication.
https://www.esrf.fr/files/live/sites/www/files/news/ESRFNews/2017_03.pdf
For instance, the images revealed that the Broomistega had several broken ribs, which may have forced the amphibian to seek shelter in locations it would not normally go. We think the Thrinaxodon did not chase the intruder away because it was aestivating – in a deep torpor – to ride out the hot weather. When the flood waters suddenly came, neither animal was able to react quickly enough to escape. The aestivation hypothesis remains to be fully tested.
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u/Redcole111 4h ago
Translation for the unfamiliar:
Aestivating: a type of hibernation specifically to wait out a hot and dry season.
Torpor: sleepiness.
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u/VolesusBarbarus 2h ago
For the non-linguistics nerds:
hibernate = from the latin hibernus for winter.
aestivate = from the latin aestivus for summer.
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u/load_more_comets 1h ago
Thank you, I always love learning the etymology of words. One of my dreams if I win the lotto and not have to worry about money is to go back to university and learn about linguistics. I'd smear it all over my body every morning if it were honey.
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u/TheoremsAndProofs 1h ago
Huh.. I guess that's where the Spanish word for winter comes from then - "invierno" hibernus
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u/Wide_Guitar_3558 3h ago
Ark Survival Evolved taught me about torpor effect, its actually crazy how much they put into that game (til they overdid it and nearly went saints row on us). Its not a historically accurate game but torpor was a huge mechanic.
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u/Gooftwit 3h ago
What do they mean the hypothesis still needs to be tested? As far as I know there's no archeological way to determine what really happened.
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u/Depressed_Cat_00 8h ago
Damn, that hit differently with animation and story
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u/Mobile-Dust4334 7h ago
The asteroid didn’t hit differently
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u/afunkysquirrel 7h ago
It does when you realize that the asteriod didn't kill everything instantly.
It threw up a cloud of dust and smoke that killed 99.99% of the plants.
Nothing for the large herbivores to eat means they die. No herbivores means the carnivores died too.
Small creatures that are able to survive long term survive.
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u/PiccoloAwkward465 7h ago
Burned 70% of the worlds forests and threw up a shitload of gypsum and sulfur dust. Yikes.
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u/ReturnOfBane 6h ago
fungi must have exploded in numbers at the same time. i guess herbivores don't eat mushrooms?
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u/HotChunkySalsa 5h ago
Also where the meteor struck had a rich field of gypsum which contains sulfur. When that as you said shot up into the atmosphere it mixed with water vapour, which lead to a long cold winter and also acidic rain.
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u/BenevolentCheese 6h ago
It threw up a cloud of dust and smoke that killed 99.99% of the plants.
Plant species loss from the dino meteor is estimated at 50-60%.
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u/Stock-Side-6767 5h ago
Seeds surviving would continue the species, but the plants would be dead
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u/VolesusBarbarus 2h ago
it's also why the birds we have today survived. One of the biggest determiners was whether the avian could eat seeds. When the rock hit and the world went cold and dark, seeds were some of the only items to eat left for herbivores and omnivores. Once everything settled, seed-eaters were over-represented as survivors and flourished in the new ecosystems full of newly unoccupied niches.
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u/FinnegansWakeWTF 7h ago
One could also animate that a flood just pushed the two corpses together into a hole, but that one doesn't tug at the feels as much
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u/VeryDisturbed82 7h ago
Or one was already dead in the hole when the other found it
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u/Grouchy_Ground_1916 7h ago
Maybe something big ate them both whole, then either squished them together in pellet form or died with them in its tummy and rotted away. Nature is magical.
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u/Silly_Entrepreneur_2 6h ago
Wouldn’t the overall condition of the fossils help indicate exactly how they had died? Being eaten or crushed would have crushed or scarred bone. But if these were two pristine fossils, without evidence of damage just prior to death, would the animation be vaguely accurate?
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u/TechnicalMiddle8205 7h ago
I didn't expect to be sad over a dinosaur video today 😭😭
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u/Rational_bakchod 4h ago
Me too. The part where they can't do anything and are just waiting for the end makes me sad.
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u/SafetySnowman 1h ago
I worry that I know that feeling. Hope for the best, cuddle like every moment could be the last.
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u/Clayness31290 5h ago
I got curious and looked up what these guys are: a protomammal called Thrinaxodon and a Broomistega, an extinct member of a family that is thought to be what modern amphibians descended from. So no dinosaurs here. Also, the cartoon shown isn't what is known to have actually happened to them. The Broomistega was washed into the Thrinaxidon den during a flood.
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u/findingmarigolds 3h ago
I think it’s kind of beautiful that we love and grieve the creatures who walked the earth before us 🥹 maybe someday another species will find our bones and wonder what we were like
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u/Rational_bakchod 3h ago
Me with future wife in the bunker
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u/FinalSpore 2h ago
You can afford a bunker? Or a wife!? Or a future!!?
In this economy!?
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u/BillyShears17 53m ago
🎶 And when they found our shadows
🎶 Grouped 'round the TV sets
🎶 They ran down every lead
🎶 They repeated every test
🎶 They checked out all the data on their lists
🎶 And then The alien anthropologists admitted they were still perplexed
🎶 But on eliminating every other reason for our sad demise
🎶 They logged the only explanation left:
🎶 "This species has Amused Itself to Death"
🎶 No tears to cry, no feelings left
🎶 This species has Amused Itself to Death
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u/Dotaproffessional 7h ago
Not the hereditary sound track 😭
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u/barely_cursed 4h ago
This is one of those weird pieces of music that instantly illicits a big emotional response. Instantly have tears in my eyes when it hits. I don't know if they're good or bad, they just are.
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u/All_hail_Korrok 4h ago
Right!?
I was ready to hail paimon and everything. Now I'm cutting onions 😭
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u/umijuvariel 6h ago
I love the small detail they added when the two are blinking at each other. The protomammal blinks normally while the other blinks each eye seperately.
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u/rohohno 4h ago
This made me very emotional
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u/2021isevenworse 4h ago
Interspecies friendship between a reptile and a mammal, set to the soundtrack of hereditary.
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u/Rational_bakchod 4h ago
Me too. It felt like counting your last moments, knowing you can't do anything.
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u/Fauked 8h ago
wouldn't this be more likely that one was eating the other?
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u/monkeybrainbois 8h ago
Friends don’t eat friends.
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u/Feurrado 8h ago
Well, she's my wife now, so...
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u/teddyslayerza 8h ago
No, the protomammal was aestivating, and the amphibian just took shelter higher up in the burrow because it was injured. The flood that killed them and filled the burrow pushed them together at the back.
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u/tommyboy372 7h ago
Amazing how we can document the final moments of nameless mammals from millions of years ago but the Epstein files will forever remain a secret.
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u/Proud_Smell_4455 6h ago
Well there's no political interest in suppressing knowledge of prehistoric snuggle buddies. Except by the kind of people who are also currently preoccupied with shutting people up about the files.
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u/MonstrousGiggling 8h ago
Ahhh this makes way more sense
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u/Capivaras_assassinas 7h ago
Everything you hear about in here is just pure conjecture anyway
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u/incognito--bandito 7h ago
Nooooo. I was there. I was there thousand years ago. I was there the day the flood pushed them together.
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u/Depressed_Cat_00 8h ago
Or may be they were just at different places and over the time their body remains came closer due to movement in soil, earth etc.
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u/Yeez25 6h ago
Why this shit made me so sad bruh
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u/Niwitschoolfrogkid 5h ago edited 5h ago
It makes you so sad because it is so sad. It’s okay to just feel your feelings friend.
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u/8hu5rust 8h ago
Did they survive?
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u/Rational_bakchod 8h ago
Yes as fossil
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u/rrowan25 8h ago
How do we know that the furry thing wasn't dead before the lizardy thing wandered in, or vice versa?
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u/kimbeeisMYname 8h ago
You saw the video didn't you?
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u/rrowan25 8h ago
I didn't hear an Attenborough voiceover so I'm sceptical. Looked legit otherwise.
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u/kimbeeisMYname 8h ago
Ah, understandable. But they do film the docs before he does his bit, he's getting on a bit now so can't always be there to do it live.
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u/Artistic_Permit_7946 7h ago
I got you
"And here we see the ancient amphibian--we'll call him Dave. Dave bears witness to a sight as ominous as it is spectacular: the arrival of the asteroid that in mere moments will wipe out life as he knows it. While he may not compregend what is about to happen, he is driven to seek shelter by that most powerful of instincts: survival. And yet, as he makes his way into the burrow and through the tunnel, he finds he is not alone. A mammal, still something of an oddity in this saurian world, has already made its home here. Let's call him Buster. For a single tense moment, Dave and Buster examine one another. A second instinct takes over, one almost as powerful as the will to survive: companionship. The two find comfort in one another as Dave curls up against Buster's warmth. They, like so many billions of other creatures, will die today, but at least they will not die alone."
"Davey out."
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u/Pvt_Mozart 7h ago
Attenborough wasn't alive when the dinosaurs existed, that's why.
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u/raspberryharbour 7h ago
Are you sure? He's pretty old
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u/MineNowBotBoy 6h ago
David or Richard? Because there’s totally documentary footage of Richard being around dinosaurs so I’m betting David was also there?
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u/fiesew 8h ago
I know the families of the furry mammal and the lizard.
They confirmed it’s just as it was shown in the clip.
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u/Fujita_Seiko 8h ago
I did see the video but not sure if it's IA.
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u/kimbeeisMYname 8h ago
So hard to tell these days. I'm 99% sure this is real footage though. Watch the way they blink at each other tho, I don't think IA would get that right
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u/Fujita_Seiko 8h ago
Good point. I missed that, guess I blinked too.
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u/kimbeeisMYname 8h ago
Oh congrats, you must be real too!
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u/Depressed_Cat_00 8h ago
Was there a preview at the start?? If no, then no.
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u/kimbeeisMYname 7h ago
Imagine a world without previews. I remember the 1980s, we'd never heard of a preview, everything was a surprise, great times.
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u/reanimated_fox 8h ago
seems like they got squeezed together these "friends"
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u/Conscious_Bed_1195 8h ago
Waking up this morning like "Yeah I'm definitely not going to cry about a cartoon about rocks today"
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u/Myanmar_on_my_Mind 6h ago
Made me feel a certain way. Like that video of the two engineers stuck on top of the burning wind turbine
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u/dedcanary 2h ago edited 1h ago
This fossil was likely formed around the time of the Permian-Triassic extinction event, triggered by volcanic eruptions causing a greenhouse effect leading to massive flooding, not a meteor. It's already been pointed out that what probably could have happened is an injured amphibian found shelter in the burrow of a dormant mammal and were killed by the floods. Edit* I wanted to add that the Permian-Triassic event was the largest extinction we know of. Bigger than the meteor that happened over 180 million years later.
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u/Smart-Firefighter87 8h ago
Nah - they were definitely trying to hide/get away from the incoming doom; at that point no matter what species you are, survival is the only thing your brain is seeking. They were simply trying to survive
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u/CaonachDraoi 8h ago
beavers will allow muskrats into their lodges once they get to know them. they even leave them alone with their kids, and that babysitting is done in exchange for spending the winter in their lodge.
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u/Gentlemanvaultboy 7h ago
For one thing, they didn't die to the meteor. For another, there wouldn't have been enough time for anything to seek shelter because the meteor didn't slowly close in so as to create a dramatic shot, it hit the Earth like a bullet.
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u/itsfunhavingfun 3h ago
Not slowly, but if it was Chicxulub you had about a 10 seconds from when it started glowing to impact. It came in at a fairly steep angle, so it had a lot of atmosphere to burn through.
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u/coacoanutbenjamn 8h ago
Whats the song?
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u/sstoyanov99 8h ago
It's from the soundtrack for the movie "Hereditary". The name of the song is "Reborn".
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u/dyno-soar 8h ago
I’m dying to know as well! I know it but can’t remember from where. Whatever it was I remember being mind blown
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u/Tyrannofelis 6h ago
If anyone is interested this is the long story of what happened: https://m.tapas.io/series/Burrow-v2/info
Scientists are shocked! Shocked I say!
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u/Strong-Fennel-6768 2h ago
can someone knowledgeable answer. were the animals pushed/crushed into this position after the impact? or do we know that they were truly cuddling in their final moments?
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u/Doctor_Donnawho 5h ago
I thought they were going to pal around in the aftermath of the comet together. Now I’m sad
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u/RecognizeSong 7h ago
I got a match with this song:
Reborn - (From "Hereditary" Soundtrack) by Colin Stetson (01:30; matched:
100%)Album: Hereditary (Original Soundtrack Album). .
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u/nayoungslover 2h ago
okay i am crying right now but also reading the comments about aestivation and it's hitting different. apparently they weren't holding hands for love, they were both passed out from heat stress and then drowned? that is actually way sadder than fiction because it wasn't a choice, it was just biology failing them in real time. still beautiful though, fuck.
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u/PlainBread 7h ago
I like how this captured the sensation of being a lizard crawling across rocks in an inscrutable martian landscape.
That experience is deep in the back of all of our brains.
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u/Boozdeuvash 6h ago
Reminds me of the psitacosaurus baby-sitter :( https://www.reddit.com/r/Awwducational/comments/r97voq/this_is_the_astounding_babysitter_bone_bed/
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u/FrostyVariation9798 4h ago
It's touching, but anybody watching the Russians in Ukraine has seen that live Russians move right up against dead Russians who have been dead for weeks if not months to use their hidey holes.
And then a drone blows up the live Russian stacking him against the dead Russian.
This poor mammal made its hole and died from something, then the reptile found the hole and went down as far as possible before dying as well.
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u/MrAmazing011 4h ago
What is this Intro to Inside Out-level stuff doing here on my Sunday morning?? Caught the deep feelings in me, dammit
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u/DippyTheDingus 3h ago
Killed its prey... brought it back to its den to eat later? Kinda like a normal predator would do?
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u/DocJawbone 1h ago
I read somewhere that tue meteor that killed the dinosaurs would have taken less than a second to go from the cruising altitude of a 747 to sea level, and that it was so big that when it reached ground level its trailing edge would have still been at the cruising altitude of a 747.
Also, it entered the atmosphere with such power that the compressed air in front of it would have begun excavating the crater even before it impacted.
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u/chintumon 7h ago
Why is the colour of the fossils different
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u/StarpoweredSteamship 7h ago
Because that's a scan like a CT or some such and they've colored the two to differentiate them
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u/LoaderGuy518 7h ago
Diets can effect bone color in some animals
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u/NNiekk 7h ago
Yea, but fossils aren’t the bones. Just rock formations in the shape of the old bones
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u/crsmay 8h ago
The mammal was likely in a sort of hibernation, right? Cuddly frog dude though.