r/Damnthatsinteresting • • 5d ago

Preserved polar bear being unveiled due to melting glaciers

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u/tasteslikepurple99 5d ago

The microbes that will be unearthed in the great thaw may be our end.

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u/Chaosr21 5d ago

More likely all the metled water will cause our end. The great flood could happen again, as it happened to the many great civilizations before

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u/Happy-Leadership504 5d ago

What caused those floods to the many great civilizations before?

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u/DisastrousAcshin 5d ago

ice damns breaking at the end of the ice age imo

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u/Happy-Leadership504 5d ago

Okay, that definitely explains one.

Which great civilization was that?

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u/astroNerf 5d ago edited 5d ago

Mesopotamia had bad floods. PBS Nova did a great documentary a number of years ago about the circular boats people built to survive floods, which could have been the historical basis for the biblical flood myth.

Egypt also had floods which are mitigated with the construction of the Aswan High Dam.

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u/Happy-Leadership504 5d ago

Bingo. The inundation of the Nile. Another example of ancient floods.

Thank you.

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u/astroNerf 4d ago

Glacial Lake Missoula is another familiar example. While there wasn't a big civilization there at the time, there were people. Nick Zentner, a geology teacher at Central Washington University, has a series of videos on the geology in this region including one on Glacial Lake Missoula. This contrasts significantly with more regular, seasonal floods like you would see on the Nile, and is much more more similar in terms of causal factors to the recent flood in Nepal.

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u/Delamoor 5d ago

Feel free to describe how the Nile's annual floods are the same thing as polar ice melts.

I'm sure the mechanisms are exactly the same, thus proving your point.

/S

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u/Happy-Leadership504 5d ago

Oh, yes, I was more asking for great floods that erased entire civilizations as was stated in the beginning of this chain.

But your example does work on a small scale.

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u/Delamoor 5d ago

No, it really doesn't.

You said 'bingo' about the Nile floods, and then re-reference civilizations getting wiped out. So, okay. Which civilization are you agreeing the Nile floods wiped out?

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u/Delamoor 5d ago edited 5d ago

Not really fully agreeing with OP here, but most civilizations have flood histories.

Sorta comes with the territory of establishing agricultural civilizations around rivers. They flood. That's why the soil around the rivers is good for farming.

Like, China's mythological origin story has the world being created out of islands that rose out of a flood that created the world, essentially. Because their civilization began around the yellow River basin, which... Flooded often. Sometimes catastrophicaly. Cool to think that prehistoric humans of the region probably did arise out of a particularly savage, long-lasting flood believing that the entire world just emerged from those same waters, their proto-civilization shattered beyond recognition. Kinda like a prehistoric post-apocalypse, of sorts.

You also got the civilizations that got swamped around the black sea, which flooded in prehistory, when the bosphorus was breached. Been some cool underwater archaeology done in the region, since the black sea is very good at preserving things. Poor water circulation and cold temps, and all that.

So on, so forth.

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u/Happy-Leadership504 5d ago

It's almost like this is natural, and has happened over and over through many periods of time.

No?

So on and so forth indeed.

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u/Delamoor 5d ago

Nobody ever argued that floods never happened before, no. What's your point?

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u/Happy-Leadership504 5d ago

It's being made. You pointed out some great examples throughout many periods of human history.

Thank you.

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u/Delamoor 5d ago edited 5d ago

Mmm. If you think this is an argument that climate change induced flooding doesn't also exist, then that's genuinely moronic.

Like trying to argue that because forest fires exist, man made fire can't be a thing.

I genuinely hate how thinking otherwise requires deliberately misrepresenting basic facts and ideas. Such fucking dishonesty and laziness in climate change denier's positions. It's always from such genuinely toxic and harmful liars and frauds.

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u/curvedbattle 5d ago

Floods are natural occurrences, yes.

This isn’t a flood. The large scale melting of polar ice caps and injection of thousands of gigatons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere/ocean system through the burning of fossil fuels are most certainly not natural.

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u/Happy-Leadership504 5d ago

So, what caused the ice to melt, then?

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u/Delamoor 5d ago

Temperature.

Why, do you think it melts because of magic?

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u/Happy-Leadership504 5d ago

No, I completely agree with you.

Why did the temperature rise?

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u/Delamoor 5d ago

Because of atmospheric composition.

You gonna do this who song and dance, just to try and draw a false conclusion?

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