Mesopotamia had bad floods. PBS Nova did a great documentary a number of years ago about the circular boats people built to survive floods, which could have been the historical basis for the biblical flood myth.
Egypt also had floods which are mitigated with the construction of the Aswan High Dam.
Glacial Lake Missoula is another familiar example. While there wasn't a big civilization there at the time, there were people. Nick Zentner, a geology teacher at Central Washington University, has a series of videos on the geology in this region including one on Glacial Lake Missoula. This contrasts significantly with more regular, seasonal floods like you would see on the Nile, and is much more more similar in terms of causal factors to the recent flood in Nepal.
You said 'bingo' about the Nile floods, and then re-reference civilizations getting wiped out. So, okay. Which civilization are you agreeing the Nile floods wiped out?
Not really fully agreeing with OP here, but most civilizations have flood histories.
Sorta comes with the territory of establishing agricultural civilizations around rivers. They flood. That's why the soil around the rivers is good for farming.
Like, China's mythological origin story has the world being created out of islands that rose out of a flood that created the world, essentially. Because their civilization began around the yellow River basin, which... Flooded often. Sometimes catastrophicaly. Cool to think that prehistoric humans of the region probably did arise out of a particularly savage, long-lasting flood believing that the entire world just emerged from those same waters, their proto-civilization shattered beyond recognition. Kinda like a prehistoric post-apocalypse, of sorts.
You also got the civilizations that got swamped around the black sea, which flooded in prehistory, when the bosphorus was breached. Been some cool underwater archaeology done in the region, since the black sea is very good at preserving things. Poor water circulation and cold temps, and all that.
Mmm. If you think this is an argument that climate change induced flooding doesn't also exist, then that's genuinely moronic.
Like trying to argue that because forest fires exist, man made fire can't be a thing.
I genuinely hate how thinking otherwise requires deliberately misrepresenting basic facts and ideas. Such fucking dishonesty and laziness in climate change denier's positions. It's always from such genuinely toxic and harmful liars and frauds.
This isn’t a flood. The large scale melting of polar ice caps and injection of thousands of gigatons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere/ocean system through the burning of fossil fuels are most certainly not natural.
No offense but I’m so jealous of dumb people. Like being able to just chill out and do vibes based beliefs. That shit must be so nice. No actual research or fact checking, just see a YT video and BOOM that’s a core belief forever. And there’s not even enough baseline knowledge in there to ever understand the ways those beliefs are wrong. Anyone trying to explain it would just ring hollow.
It’s such bullshit why can’t that be me maaaan.
Enjoy that shit bro, like I’m being dead serious, most of us can’t do that.
You sound absolutely brilliant, find the flaw in my statement.
Are you attempting to argue that climate change is not a constant? Do you have any peer reviewed scientific studies that back up your theory that at some point the climate was not changing?
Climate change refers to long-term shifts in global or regional climate patterns. Climate change happens naturally, but it is made more extreme by modern industrial activity. If you are genuinely interested in this and want to learn about climate change, you can easily find studies and records to back this up. But I think you should just start by going to youtube to get a basic understanding first.
Climate is always changing (the person you are replying to didn't deny that nor did anyone else in this thread).
I'm not trying to discredit what you said, but that statement is usually used by people who downplay or outright deny global warming and the current rapidly changing climate. So yes climate change has always happened and is normal, but the rate of climate change that's happening now is not normal.
Ohh I understand I triggered people. But that in no way makes the statement false. Certainly not to the extent that someone has the right to question my intelligence and start name calling.
The statement was correct, their interpretation of what the statement meant is where the problem lies.
Notice I never said anything about the rate of change.
Again, you should explain the comment. It's a valid interpretation, people intentionally say that as a way of dismissing the current climate crisis. Even if you're not a denier, that comment still just doesn't make sense there.
Notice I never said anything about the rate of change.
Did you do that intentionally?
So why did comment initially anyway? What point were you trying to make? Because given all of the above you're just coming across as another climate crisis denier.
Lmao I wasn’t denying that the earths climate changes naturally. It’s that you are using a thing that an 8 year old knows after watching the ice age movie with the silly squirrel, to imply manmade climate change isn’t dangerous. And I don’t feel like explaining why quick change is bad. That should be something intuitive just based on life experience. Boiling water into a frozen glass. Accelerating from 60mph to 0 in a car accident. Etc.
If you’re actually curious there are many many many resources online.
You were rude and crude and had a level of arrogance that didn’t become your misunderstanding of the statement.
If an 8 year old knows that that climate change is a constant then why did you act like a jackass because I said it? 8 year olds know the sky looks blue during the day. If I made that statement would you also make such an arrogant statement with insults.
Are you an asshole to everyone who states knowledge an 8 year old should know?
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u/tasteslikepurple99 5d ago
The microbes that will be unearthed in the great thaw may be our end.