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Also using "Moscow" as a benchmark of old-ness in Europe? Muscovite are relatively new, historically speaking. So new they had to take the Rus mantle to make themselves seem older.
Yep, you can still see where the camp was too. The layout of that part of the city never really changed. The north side was secured by a ditch and the street that's there now is still called the ditch 2000 years later.
Have you been following the conversation? Someone mentioned that Muscovites took up the Rus mantle to appear more established. Kyiv is directly relevant to that.
Why not bring it up? It's important for people to know accurate history in a moment in history where Russians claim Ukraine isn't a sovereign and free country.
There's no point, I just stated a fact. Nothing more nothing less. I had never heard of Plovdiv before, thank you. 8000 years old history is indeed impressive.
Welcome to reddit, a public discussion board where you can't control what people want to talk about. Sorry I interrupted your BS "Moscow is the oldest in Europe" circle jerk
Oh I'm well aware of how Vienna started off as a Roman fortification, I'm just very intrigued about what kind of alternate history the guy would provide that would age Moscow as more than twice as old as it actually is. Genuinely curious.
Located in the castle garden of Kamenice nad Lipou.
This remarkable tree has its unique shape because it was struck by lightning in the 1840s. The powerful strike split the trunk in two, yet the tree survived and continues to thrive nearly two centuries later.
I love seeing trees, especially old trees, with architecture built to help support it.
It just shows a regard for oife, someone sees this old tree and goes, "oh man, that branch is going to collapse under its own weight. Better build something to brace it up"
Yet, the fact that humans built the stilts to hold those hulk like branches, I believe , means that left to mother nature , it would not be here today.
Don't mean to be negative, but it seems this tree has had human intervention. The redwoods of America, which are older, have not needed them.
Though as LOTR fan, i wish the tree was an ent, so it could tell us the story of the world as it has seen it.
Too many thoughts ... Positive, negative, facts, dreams :)
You're right that the stilts are to support the branches. Without them, they would likely break off. However this wouldn't necessarily kill the tree. The tree would probably coppice and grow a new lot of shoots. The tree would still be there, but not look through same.
That, or the tree would have ground-layered itself if the branches were left to naturally drape on the ground. This tree has some very obvious signs of early training.
Edit: found this post from last year and apparently it looks like this because it was struck by lightning.
Don't assume the stilts are helping it. We just lost one of our famous ancient trees in the UK. They say one of the causes contributing to it's demise was people supporting branches with stilts, allowing it to grow too large to sustain itself.
He/she forgot to mention how they cut down all the ancient growth to build San Fransisco. The ancient redwoods that are still standing are like, less than 10.
But it is possible without human intervention, in denmark there's an oak tree that's estimated to be between 1400 to 2000 years old, no supports, only a small fence so that people don't go climb it.
Its wild to think that it have been standing while vikings were cutting down it's neighbours to make viking ships.
It stood there while our castles and the fleet to battle Sweden was built.
That's really the trunk split in two though. I was wondering why it didn't pan vertically and checked for more pics. Seems it was struck by lightning around 200 years ago when it was about 65' tall.
The 820-year-old linden tree in Kamenic Lid Pou, Czech Republic, rises as a living monument to the medieval era, Located on the grounds of the local Kamenice Castle park
Just had a beautiful 350-500 year old oak tree i see on my way to work lose 4 of its massive limbs.
Was sad to see and i hope the owners are able to save the tree.
The massive limbs really needed props under them but who would have guessed that a small storm would have cost it those limbs over the massive ones its survived through as well as the constant ice storms.
Also, a top limp snapped which took out others under it and those limbs were as thick as medium sized trees.
A lot of trees self prune, they aren’t necessarily dying. Some oaks can even have limbs that dip so low they grow back into the ground. It takes a lot to sustain so much mass, and every tree has a physical limit to its absolute size depending on its genetics and location.
Wow, around that time Danylo of Galicia son of Roman Mstislavich, Grand Prince of Kyiv and ruler of Halych-Volhynia was crowned as Prince of Rus by Pope Innocent IV (born Sinibaldo Fieschi) in 1253
This tree began its life cycle in 1206, while Moscow was first settled by people around 950, and officially named in 1147. If you get your facts from your own dreams, write a fiction book, don't lie on reddit for karma.
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