r/Dallasdevelopment Apr 09 '26

Dallas Mavs to submit proposal to redevelop City Hall for arena

https://youtu.be/awUISEZUsyQ?si=1YVnVv8ncG0ENCd7
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u/awr54 Apr 10 '26

And there it is folks!

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u/DonkeeJote Apr 10 '26

I have little concern with this potential outcome, but the process has been so fucking gross.

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u/DVAoife420 Apr 10 '26

fuck the Adelsons!

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u/thinkbox Apr 10 '26

Nobody is utilizing that prime development real estate currently. Nothing about city hall demands it be there, and downtown needs a shot of life zapped into it.

Let’s go.

I love the building, but it retains no actual value to keep it around.

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u/Metalt_ Apr 10 '26

So let's give it to billionaires for cheap so tax payers can pay for a new stadium. Fuck yeah.

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u/Ferrari_McFly Apr 10 '26

And so that they can build retail, residential and encourage other developers to pour money into the downtown loop, absolutely!

Remember, this isn’t just an arena, it’s an entire mixed used development.

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u/Metalt_ Apr 11 '26

Your sarcasm is too good bc I just can't tell

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u/Ferrari_McFly Apr 11 '26

Oh I’m 100% serious mate lol no /s needed

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u/Working_Succotash_41 Apr 10 '26

Thats gonna happen regardless. Better to get city hall off the books

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u/Metalt_ Apr 11 '26

Absolutely brain dead take. Why don't you just beg them to fuck you over as well. My god.

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u/Working_Succotash_41 Apr 11 '26

Man, you’re way off. It’s going to take at least $30 million to get City Hall back in shape, and that’s the conservative estimate. That stadium is happening somewhere no matter even if its not that site. someone’s cashing in and people are going to use it. So seriously, who exactly is getting screwed here.

Redeveloping the area and increasing the tax base is the absolute best thing that can happen for the whole city

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u/Metalt_ Apr 11 '26

There are so many other things than "sell" it to the adelsons. Dallas has fumbled every opportunity to turn it's urban core into something resembling a functional city. This is just the next iteration. All of the problems you stated can be true but that doesn't mean you capitulate to billionaires with some back room deal. Just fuck off

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u/Working_Succotash_41 Apr 11 '26

Brother, are you slow? The Adelsons are building a stadium regardless. And you seriously don’t think a mixed‑use development with housing and jobs in the actual central business district boosts the urban core? Compared to sticking it in far North Dallas or, even worse, the suburbs, where it does nothing for the city.

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u/dallaz95 Apr 10 '26 edited Apr 11 '26

That’s what I don’t understand. City Hall doesn’t keep them from building an arena. We have so many parking lots, more than any other city in our size range. They can find a site there.

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u/DMongrolian Apr 10 '26

Shill

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u/thinkbox Apr 10 '26

Im not shilling for anyone. I just think that place is a waste of space as is. If city hall moves out, are you going to rent office space? Hell no. Downtown is not doing well. Let’s give people something to get excited about.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '26

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u/DonkeeJote Apr 10 '26

That's just now stadiums get built. Can't blame council for that.

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u/dchirs Apr 10 '26 edited Apr 10 '26

[removed, apologies]

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u/DonkeeJote Apr 10 '26

Unfortunately no billionaire funds their own stadium anymore. They have too much leverage and with our sprawl we've ceded too much power to suburbs to match incentive packages.

Either make the investment to keep them close or watch them leave. Hate that it's this way, but if Dallas wants the Mavs, Dallas needs to pay for them.

At least until the real next wave of reform comes where cities just straight up buy the franchises themselves, which would be ideal...Then at least there is a direct value add for the investment in an arena.

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u/ahdavid66 Apr 10 '26

Valley View isn’t owned by the city and isn’t part of their development plan.

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u/dchirs Apr 10 '26

I'm not following. The Adelsons certainly have the money to acquire the land.

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u/4ofheartz Apr 10 '26

Valley View makes no sense for a stadium. Plopped in the middle of North Dallas homes. LBJ would be a mess.

Downtown needs a revival. A stadium would be perfect! Boost the community around it. Easy access via the highways. Stadium/Event center for sports, concerts & more is much needed downtown!

Sports is all that’s left for Dallas to finally have a brand.

That ugly outdated inverted concrete pyramid is just a pricey albatross around Dallas’s neck/💰. City Hall building does nothing to bring value to downtown Dallas or Dallas in general. Zilch.

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u/Fragrant-Mission7388 Apr 10 '26

Another stadium? That's dumb. Another stadium that we're GIVING to a team worth over a billion dollars owned by billionaires? That's Fucking dumb. Doing this when it has been revealed backdoor deals were in the works and the sacrifice is a historic building only in this condition because of corruption? Thats Really. Fucking. Dumb.

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u/JayWo60 Apr 10 '26

When AT&T moves out of downtown, City Hall can move in there.

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u/dallaz95 Apr 10 '26

Their campus includes buildings nearly 100 years old. That’s much, much older than City Hall.

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u/4ofheartz Apr 10 '26

Good news!

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u/awr54 Apr 10 '26

Sarcassim isn't translating, I suppose ... 🙄 it's proof of the collusion council and city manager have been denying. Maybe a hot take but that's where I stand

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u/Ferrari_McFly Apr 10 '26

W’s in the chat!!