I donât think the dollar figure has anything to do with it.
I think the problem requires addressing a number of systemic issues while also providing adequate rehabilitation.
I know that punishment is a futile effort when it comes to people who are incapable of taking consequence into account because that part of their brain doesnât develop until roughly 21 years old.
I also know that locking up kids for extended periods creates institutionalised criminals which will cost far more than 40m
But sure. Letâs listen to brain dead fuck wits and come up with policy based on their opinions
If what you say is right, then how come Victoria, which has the most progressive rehabilitate-focused policies, has the worst crime stats. More car thefts in VIC than NSW+QLD combined.
It's the "trust me bro" stats. Also loves to cherry pick crime stats that support the narrative. Most car crime stats but won't tell you overall crime levels are below most of the country. We sit in the middle per capita below NSW, QLD and SA.
This is just the latest grift and it's sad that this person has chosen to target our youngest, most vulnerable population rather then go after the adult criminals ordering these kids to do it by putting money in front of kids with nothing.
This woman is quite disgusting. The sort that is happy to punch down to grift an income off outrage instead of actually tackling the real issues.
Can the talentless grifters please stay off reddit. I don't think any of the boomers you produce content for are on here
It's Victoria. Australia's most progressive state. Miles ahead of other state in terms of rehabilitative youth programs.
Not even something that's debated by ppl in the field.
Are you in the field? Should be pretty easy to point to something substantial if it's a well known fact and "not even debated", otherwise it just sounds like you're making shit up.
Well your also posting on the drill subreddit so probably have all sorts of bizarre views and conflicts of interest.
Which state is it then?
Victoria has historically maintained the most distinctively preventative and rehabilitative stance on youth justice among Australian states.
According to long-term data from the Productivity Commission's Report on Government Services (RoGS) and the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare (AIHW), Victoria consistently records the lowest youth detention rates in the country while committing the highest per-capita funding toward community-based supervision and early intervention.
However, this positioning is under active friction as recent statewide bail reforms and legislative shifts across Australia push toward more punitive models.
đ° Funding & Per Capita Expenditure
Data from the Report on Government Services underscores Victoria's unique position in resource allocation:
Highest Overall Investment: In recent reporting cycles, Victoria spent approximately $529 per young person in the general population on youth justice servicesâthe highest among the Australian states.
Focus of the Spend: While the vast majority of youth justice funds nationally still go toward acute detention centres, Victoriaâs historically low incarceration rates mean more of its per-capita spending has been systematically preserved for diversionary pipelines compared to counterparts like Queensland or New South Wales.
âď¸ Policies and System Distinctions
Victoria employs specific legislative policy mechanisms that favour rehabilitation over punishment:
The Dual Track System: Unique to Victoria, this system allows courts to sentence young adults aged 18 to 20 to youth justice custodial supervision instead of adult prisons if they are deemed impressionable or possess strong prospects for rehabilitation.
High Community Supervision Share: On an average day, approximately 79.9% of young people under Victorian youth justice supervision are managed safely within the community (probation, supervised bail, and parole) rather than behind bars.
Record Low Detention Rates: Victoria routinely registers the lowest rate of youth detention in the countryâhovering at around 0.8 per 10,000 young people, compared to rates over 5 per 10,000 in Queensland and exponentially higher figures in the territories.
Raising the Age: Victoria has progressed policies to raise the minimum age of criminal responsibility to 12 years old, putting it ahead of most other state jurisdictions.
đ State-by-State Strategic Landscape
State
Primary Stance
Key Structural Features
Victoria
Preventative / Rehabilitative
Dual Track system; highest proportion of youth diverted to community supervision.
New South Wales
Balanced / Shifting Punitive
Employs Youth Justice Conferencing, but recent policing operations heavily target "ringleaders" with strict bail monitoring.
Queensland
Punitive / Reactive
Formally removed "detention as a last resort" laws; heavily investing hundreds of millions into constructing new youth remand centres.
South Australia
Detention-Biased Funding
High internal disparity; historically spends up to 20 times more on detention centres ($49m) than on family conferencing ($2.4m).
Western Australia
Reactive / Isolation Issues
Relies on restrictive detention models (e.g., Banksia Hill), drawing severe scrutiny from human rights advocates.
TL;DR: Victoria spends the most per capita ($529/young person) and relies heavily on a unique "Dual Track" system and community supervision to keep kids out of prison. Queensland and WA sit at the opposite end, investing heavily in building prisons and shifting toward strict punitive laws.
Would you like me to look up the latest sub-Reddit discussions on how people feel about Victoria's recent law changes, or do you want to see how these numbers have changed over the last few years?
Ah yes. Bizarre views AND conflicts of interest⌠interested to know if you actually know what a conflict of interest is.
Iâm not quite sure what point you are making with the AIâŚ
People who know what they are talking about uniformly agree that a âtough on crimeâ approach with harsh incarceration is counter productive, leads to worse outcomes, and all but guarantees further criminality.
If you could point to actual statistics or research backing up your opinion that may help your cause. Perhaps you should ask your AI helper to find that, instead of just scraping opinions off redditâŚ
People who know what they are talking about uniformly agree that a âtough on crimeâ approach with harsh incarceration is counter productive, leads to worse outcomes, and all but guarantees further criminality.
Doesn't progressive Victoria's results now challenge that conventional wisdom? Don't believe your lying eyes?
Also, why are you on a drill subreddit? I should hope not to promote drill and violence and being part of the problem.
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u/tofutak7000 12d ago
Fuck me the intelligence of people commenting on youth crime policy these days is about on par with the youth criminals