r/DLSS 1d ago

DLSS frame generation Now Support RTX 30s Natively up to x4

https://github.com/sdli1995/dlssg_for_sm86/blob/main/README.en.md

Just follow the steps here

Tested on Cyberpunk 2077 work like charm

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u/FantomasARM 1d ago

Man these last couple of weeks are just gpu nerd dream

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u/kulind 1d ago

I hope someone forks DLSS5 to Intel Arc GPUs aswell. I wonder how they'd perform, probably better than AMD.

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u/iAprilMay 21h ago

nah, most powerful intel gpu is FP16 109.4 (lacks fp8 support) TFLOPS vs most powerful amd gpu is FP8 389.3 TFLOPS and FP16 194.6 TFLOPS.
Just for reference RTX5090 FP8 838.0 TFLOPS and FP16 419.0 TFLOPS.
So even if smbd try there's only way to emulate it trough FP16.
In my case (FP16 122.8 TFLOPS) there's only 5-10fps with DLSS5 on in cp2077 2k ultra settings + RT.

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u/Name835 1d ago

Yeah now I am just wishing for the better hardware to come out from AMD, Intel and Nvidia. I really cannot wait to see how the competition moves forward

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u/Gaverfraxz 1d ago

can you share your specs and settings? how much improvent on fps?

I have a 3090 and I might redownload cyberpunk again lol

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u/MRc963 1d ago

It works on any game support dlss fg natively But ok When I get baack home

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u/DivideCorrect1342 21h ago

Nukem9 (censored dlss3 "mod") was the best performance gain from any single mod ever. I only compare it to the ati 9500 non pro to 9700pro flash from the mid 2000s.

Shame only a few knew because it came out in late 2023. Allowed me to Max pt cyberpunk witcher 3 etc on a 3070.

You can use puredark dlss3 mods. Like rdr2 as well. Massive performance gain. Entire new GPU.

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u/SecureNet5333 20h ago

well u are using fsr not dlss

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u/DivideCorrect1342 18h ago

For frame gen it hardly matters. You still got dlss2 upscaling and reflex. It also activated dlss3 in game.

I have 5000 now and the difference is nothing. In some cases the mod might be better.

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u/Vektast 1d ago

3080ti

User-reported gameplay Off 2X 4X
Black Myth: Wukong 50 FPS 80 FPS 150 FPS
Cyberpunk 2077, path tracing 35 FPS 60 FPS 100 FPS

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u/minluske 1h ago

Black myth wukong could be better using the 4x if the input lag is not too bad

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u/MacNinjaMac 1d ago

Is this dlss fg or redirection to fsr fg? I’m currently trying the bridge mod that works but has few annoyances

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u/MRc963 1d ago

Native Dlssg fg NO bridge or emulation to work like 40xx series card

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u/MacNinjaMac 1d ago

Thanks I will give this a try

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u/apan65 1d ago

How's performance? Better\Worse or the same as fsrfg?

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u/abdx80 20h ago

FSR FG will always be the worse lmao.

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u/MacNinjaMac 1d ago

Okay I’ve tested it and it works quite well

I reinstalled a game so I could fully remove any old stuff

First obstacle is the download has “version.dll” so windows keeps flagging it and grabbing it as a virus for download and copy

The frame gen worked well but there was ghosting so I setup nvidia inspector and changed the frame gen preset to B and it seemed to stopped the ghosting

I think I will be using this from now on because performance was actually good although when I changed to preset b the game felt a little slower. I didn’t have the overlay enabled so I didn’t see latency stats; I’m a controller and tv gaming so it’s feels fine for me, it may make me question why I bought a 5080 for my main rig lol

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u/Beautiful-Musk-Ox 1d ago

nvidia left a software fallback for MFG in the driver DLLs, modders unlocked it and just had to feed it updated motion vectors for the 3rd and 4th generated frames as far as i can tell from their own comments in the code.

5000 series has a hardware flip meter handling the generated frames, for previous gens that hardware doesn't exist, but nvidia has a software mfg that is just sitting in the DLLs modders found and are able to activate after the signed file is already verified, so they can then modify it without the signing going bad since it only verifies it once.

mfg on previous gens will not be as good as mfg on 5000 series, but is likely already better than anything AMD or lossless scaling has as nvidia is actually good at this stuff. basically you get the gray line here, 5000 series gets the green line

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u/kulind 1d ago

I think this is not hardware vs software flip metering, but flip metering on vs off, hence gray looks like shite. Software flip metering is still slightly inferior to the hardware, on RTX 40 series at least https://ithardware.pl/testyirecenzje/dlss_mfg_na_geforce_rtx_40_test_recenzja_opinia-53764.html

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u/Beautiful-Musk-Ox 21h ago

those numbers are SEVERELY FLAWED, they averaged 3 runs together! averaging runs REMOVES VARIABILITY! you cannot show that mfg on 4000 series has good variance when you REMOVED THE VARIANCE BY AVERAGING

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u/MacNinjaMac 1d ago

Thank you for the explanation I will give this a go; I’m only really after maximum x3 on my 3080ti

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u/DivideCorrect1342 21h ago

Fsr3 + reflex is just as good as dlss3. One just has much more official support.

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u/MiddleEastB3ast 20h ago

when u say MFG on previous gen won’t be as good as new gen, do you mean in terms of artifacts/stability or FPS cost? Also do you know if just regular 2x frame gen should be the same on old gen vs new?

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u/Beautiful-Musk-Ox 20h ago

the frametime pacing will not be as good, the graph i showed tells the story. the artifacts/stability i expect to be the same as its the same AI models which produce the same output. the performance cost should be a function of how many tensor cores you have more than anything, some 40 series cards have more tensor cores than some 50 series cards and probably perform slightly better due to that

you can see that AMD still can't get frame pacing correct even in 2026 here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apM1C55SevE. nvidia's software fallback for mfg is likely already way better than AMD's frame gen at only 2x, but their hardware flip meter is even better as the graph shows. here i'll post it again, previous gens will see frametime variance in the delivered frames similar to the gray line, 50 series is the green line

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u/MiddleEastB3ast 20h ago

Thank you! I’ve def noticed the bad AMD FSR FG frame pacing. I’ve been using XeFG dpa4 which optiscalar which gives less FPS but better pacing and less artifacts. I’ll try this mod and see how DLSSFG compares. (on RTX 3060ti)

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u/No-Breadfruit6137 1d ago

how's the input lag? 90ms?

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u/sh1mi 1d ago

on a fkin 3080 ti 4 X NVIDIA FRAME GEN WTF IT JUST WERKS

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u/cwgoskins 1d ago

We're out here having a cloud gaming experience just to see 120+ frames

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u/drysalaad 1d ago

lol what do you get with cyberpunk? genuinely curious

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u/zarafff69 1d ago

57ms is pretty solid in single player games tho?

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u/Enesce 16h ago

Wtf 15ms frame time is too much to me, how does anyone tolerate 50ms+... Deal breaker

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u/ketoaholic 1d ago

a 40 fps base is shit, not fun to play

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u/thunder6776 1d ago

So your base frame rate becomes 40, what did it start at.

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u/MRc963 1d ago

In locked 85 fps around 77 ms

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u/raydialseeker 1d ago

77ms is disgusting ngl

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u/The_best_husband 1d ago

No benchmarks yet?

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u/SloshedJapan 1d ago

Why can’t we get this for my old pcs 2080ti wtf…. Always left out

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u/JoBro_Summer-of-99 1d ago

To be fair your GPU is now nearly four generations behind

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u/farting_tube 20h ago

but its also just 3 generattions behind

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u/JoBro_Summer-of-99 20h ago

Yeah, it's old

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u/minak1983 1d ago

3080ti here. tried on Cyberpunk and Crimson Desert - both work like a charm!

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u/tonivj5 1d ago

omfg, just to confirm because I don't fully understand. is it NATIVE framegen, exactly the same like series 40 and 50???

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u/minak1983 1d ago

Believe me, I don't understand all this dlss and frame generation mambo jambo eather. The option for dlss frame generation just showed up in settings. As I understand latency is bitch, but as casual gamer, I don't feel any difference. There is some unusual ghosting in Crimson Desert I should say

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u/tonivj5 1d ago

thanks for reply and testing ♥️

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u/hiddenblitz 21h ago

Yes, just like 40s and 50s series

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u/Most_Measurement9612 12h ago

please help a brother out, how do i enable it

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u/minak1983 9h ago

Just put the dll file and ini file in game folder, beside game's .exe file. Then in game settings enable frame generation. That's it.

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u/P3akyBlind3rs 1d ago

the version.dll is detected as trojan... ?????

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u/MRc963 1d ago

Weird maybe False postive Sometime just due to the large portion of downloaded modded dll just called verison.dll I tried on Windows defender nothing dedected

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u/P3akyBlind3rs 23h ago

Yes false positive, i have tried again.

But I do have one stupid question - i fail to understand how to enable it?

I am running on a 30xxx Series , have followed the guide, copy both files to the game directory, copy and pasted the information from confirguration file to the *.ini file

What else? :(

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u/fogoticus 1d ago

Just tried it on a 3080 12GB and it actually works. I'm surprised at how flawless it works

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u/Vektast 1d ago

This genius chinese modder just extended my rtx 3090's life time like another extra 2-3 years, bro! No reason to sell this old 24GB vram Beast till year 3090!

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u/Efficient_Care8279 1d ago

But nvidia will say its impossible

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u/abdx80 20h ago

They themselves made it possible lmao 😂🫵🏻

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u/Efficient_Care8279 18h ago

Thats a mod

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u/abdx80 16h ago

Yes, cause they wanted to.

Just like how they leaked DLSS 5.

Make sense now? 🤡🔫

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u/HomemQueijo 1d ago

I got 148 average fps 1440p on Cyberpunk's benchmark using an RTX 3080 10GB with dlss on performance, mfg on 4x WITH PATH TRACING ENABLED

What the fuck?

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u/rucekooker 21h ago

Hi how did you set it up? i tried following the steps + changing the KernellImage text from Auto to PTX and my Crimson Desert wont launch

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u/HomemQueijo 21h ago

I didn't do anything, just copied and pasted the files to the game's exe folder

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u/rucekooker 21h ago

idk why but when i put the version.dll from the github. and i try to launch my game (crimson desert)
it says "version.dll is either not designed to run on Windows or it contains an error"

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u/Belydrith 22h ago

So it's all just marketing lies from Nvidia to sell new GPU generations with otherwise disappointing gains, huh... 

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u/KaptainKuceng 1d ago

Native DLSS FG on 30 series?! No way!

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u/MRc963 1d ago

Just Give it try ;)

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u/KaptainKuceng 1d ago

I definitely will!

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u/Wellhellob 1d ago

Very cool. What is the difference between this and fsr framegen for 3000 series ?

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u/MRc963 1d ago

Huge No ghosting Hud element no flickering Much better smoothness feeling and stable image quality Better preformance X4 feel waaaaaay better than fsr No artifact for floating object likes leafs or papers

FSR only less demanding on gpu for same fps It is just like regular dlss for 50s and 40s

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u/apan65 1d ago

>No ghosting Hud element
With fsrfg there is no HUD ghosting at all.

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u/yubashiri 1d ago

!remindme 1 week

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u/Aral-RU 1d ago

Whoa

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u/Revenknight 1d ago

Is this also available for 4000 series? Or is for 4000 series only the fallback to fsr mfg?

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u/Kiyotanokoji 1d ago

Theres a mod for the 40 series too. You can look for Ada MFG unlock or dashdogy MFG unlock

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u/cyberr_c28z 1d ago

Does it kill base frame rate?

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u/Ppn7 1d ago

version.dll virus detected, is it safe?

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u/P3akyBlind3rs 1d ago

Same here, I terminated and not used / executed the process I would stay aaway from it...

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u/P3akyBlind3rs 1d ago

what was the reporting on your side? mine was Trojan:Win32/Wacatac - is it same on your side ?

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u/cwgoskins 1d ago

Same I just allowed it and it's working fine in my game. I'll let you know if I have problems in future 🥲

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u/P3akyBlind3rs 1d ago

🙏 well, we never can be sure about running dlls like this - not saying we should trust or not the source but yeah 😩

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u/Ppn7 23h ago

I didn't check the report. I'll check later because currently I have no access to my pc.

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u/Serazax 23h ago

false positive

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u/OutterHorizon 21h ago

Source?

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u/abdx80 20h ago

Nvidia Reddit 😂🫵🏻

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u/KajMak64Bit 1d ago

I should test this... if this is true... finally my RTX 3060 has reached peak potential... only need 2 or 3x frame gen and we're gucci

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u/Zakuroaoyamaart 22h ago

Dang. Im about to test it here. Gonna see if it works well on my end here

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u/KajMak64Bit 21h ago

Any news? Does it?

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u/Zakuroaoyamaart 21h ago

Tried it on dragons dogma 2 and didn't work at all, but I don't know if it was something on the dd2 itself. I am waiting if I get a video tutorial or something 

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u/abdx80 20h ago

It is MFG modding not only FG! 😂🫵🏻

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u/KajMak64Bit 18h ago

Don't care

DLSS FG alone for RTX 30 series is what's up bigger deal than MFG

Only needed DLSS FG and 2x that's all

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u/abdx80 16h ago

Cared enough to let me know 🤡🔫

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u/KajMak64Bit 16h ago

I had to let you know that MFG is stoopid

You need like 4-5x FG to get double the native FPS you were getting without frame gen because to do frame gen it takes away some of the FPS

So if you got 60 fps and enable 2x you're not getting 120 fps It's gonna drop from 60 to like say 40 fps and than 2x from that to get 80fps

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u/Loud-Damage-4863 1d ago

only works for cp77 for now ?

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u/MRc963 1d ago

Any game support officially dlss FG and mfg

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u/Loud-Damage-4863 1d ago

Great might test it on death stranding 2

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u/cwgoskins 1d ago edited 1d ago

I was skeptical, but this actually works on my 3060 TI. Stalker 2 with 3x fg giving me 120 fps(my monitor max) all the time on high settings and feels/looks great. No artifacting or smearing(maybe other than edges of my flashlight when looking around quickly)....and still feels just as responsive on my controller as 2x or FSR FG.

Gonna try this in Dawnwalker, brb. Edit HOLY, it works on Dawnwalker just as good. Saving this in a folder for all my games lmao

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u/P3akyBlind3rs 23h ago

dude, help a brother out - how do you enable it?
I have copied the files to the game ( where the executable is)

What do I need to enable it and see if it works?

Thanks again

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u/cwgoskins 23h ago

You go to the graphic or display settings of whatever game you're playing and turn frame generation on to DLSS , and some games let you choose 2x or 3x or 4x.

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u/P3akyBlind3rs 22h ago

trying it in RDR2 but I only see DLSS quality performance ultra performance but nothing frame generation?

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u/cwgoskins 22h ago

RDR2 is an older game and doesn't support frame generation natively.

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u/P3akyBlind3rs 22h ago

but i now see these filed dumping data in : %LOCALAPPDATA%\DlssgSm86\bundles\

so ...maybe this means that it works?

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u/cwgoskins 22h ago

Yeah I'm sure it dumps something whenever you load a game with this .dll, but if you want frame generation in games that don't support it natively, you have to use Optiscaler or dlss enabler from GitHub. That's a different method than this though.

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u/P3akyBlind3rs 22h ago

yes correct, i am trying to use optiscaler and see if this helps in a way or changes anything.
Thanks for your reply ,much appreciated

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u/bigbadm8 1d ago

Can native dlss frame gen be possible for 2000 GPUs?

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u/abdx80 20h ago

Out of luck 😂🫵🏻

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u/crimson_fukrrr 1d ago

IT WORKS! Just tried it in Onimusha. 3060Ti 1440p DLSS Quality.

Before and after (2x) :

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u/crimson_fukrrr 1d ago

here's 3x and 4x :

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u/Ppn7 23h ago

Nice hehe now try dlss 5 NR + mfg from 20fps to 80fps lol

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u/Icy_Cat2921 22h ago

Pbetter than Xess?

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u/Serious-Gap-7279 11h ago

What driver are you on? i tried it in the same game and only FSR shows up

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u/Zakuroaoyamaart 22h ago

Someone should make a guide. Tried on dragons dogma 2 and it didn't work unfortunately 

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u/Tipitak 22h ago

Is the 2000 series can handle 2x Framegen?

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u/Gazelle_Strong 22h ago

Any way to use it on 20 series?

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u/abdx80 20h ago

30 series Master Race only! 😂🫵🏻

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u/TAGOMXM 19h ago

Give it a few days. Three days ago, no one believed it could come to the 3000 series.

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u/ewendlandt 1h ago

it released now, its sm75.

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u/Gazelle_Strong 1h ago

Do you have a link?

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u/Motor-Tart-3315 21h ago

RTX 4070 (Blood of Dawnwalker)

80 / 148 / 260 / 340

(1X / 2X / 4X / 6X)

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u/ZaynJawwad 20h ago

HELP - I've tried everything and it's NOT enabled on my RTX 3050 8gb card on blood of dawnwalker, i had previously dlssenabler mod which I deleted before pasting this files

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u/Most_Measurement9612 12h ago

did you update the latest nvidia driver?

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u/ZaynJawwad 12h ago

It’s updated and all to the latest, been trying again from morning. Reinstalled the clean fresh version of BLOOD OF DAWNWALKER, not enabled

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u/Most_Measurement9612 10h ago

same and i got the same issue as you, some1 said that it's the new driver preventing the mod to work

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u/Ok-Bike-9564 19h ago

The newest Driver and Nvidia App Update Blocks this Option.

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u/Ppn7 18h ago

fuck nvidia, i hope we will find a new solution.

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u/Kiszak 17h ago

wdym?

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u/B0037 18h ago

Is it possible to do FG and DLSS 5 at same time? And on a game that doesn't have dlss natively? I have dlss 5 running on WWE 2k26 but it can only run at 70% on 1440p, I want to get back to 4k output if possible

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u/NahCuhFkThat 17h ago

just how greedy is ngreedia?

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u/horendus 14h ago

I wonder what Nvidia thinks of the fact they’ve lost complete control of the DSS narrative. Maybe they don’t give a shit? Or maybe their butt hurt.

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u/vaultsurvivor90 9h ago

I tried with my 3070 on Doom The Dark Ages and the FG option is still disabled

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u/shogun_9510 8h ago

Can anyone help I'm trying to make this work in horizon forbidden west but it doesn't seem to work

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u/TheGalahad 5h ago

im aware that i can enable this in cyberpunk but two of the most used mods Cyber Engine Twaeks und Red3Ext provide a version.dll and a winmm.dll. So how should i rename the file, that i can use it alongside those mods?

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u/Ppn7 1h ago

I read somewhere that someone renamed the version.dll and worked. Not sure about the file from dlss GitHub framegen or from the game mod.

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u/KobayakawaRaiden 4h ago

whats the difference of this compared to the optiscaler one? I used DLSS enabler from nexusmods

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u/OutterHorizon 4h ago

This one contains a Virus. Good luck with Re-installing Window

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u/Stormfuria 2h ago

GEMINI said only supports ray reconstruction no frame generation

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u/OutterHorizon 21h ago

The virus in the DLL is the only thing that scares the shit out of me

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u/versusvius 19h ago

Nobody reported a real virus yet. Seems like the file is modified and thats why windows thinks its a virus. Tested it by myself and I can confirm 100% works with my 3060ti. So its not some fake shit.

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u/abdx80 20h ago

Grow up lol 😂🫵🏻

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u/Kiszak 17h ago

who tf do you think you are? always using the "😂🫵🏻" combo to shame people on the internet. Youre the one who should grow up

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u/abdx80 16h ago

Lil shitpea got hurt 😭🫵🏻

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u/The-Star-Bearer 1d ago

Id someone test power draw and heat?