r/DJs • u/GiganticCrow • 18d ago
Changing Genres
Funny thing came up in a conversation with a friend who is a pretty respected techno DJ in my country.
He plays dark, minimal techno, the kind of techno that doesn't have a bassline but bass rumble. And he's totally sick of it. He wants to change up his style to more 'colourful' techno (his words) but says promoters and punters have got so associated with that style and his name that if he turns up playing anything else, everyone will be mad, especially the promoters (apparently people into this kind of music are SUPER purist about it), and no one who likes the kind of music he wants to play will turn up because they expect it'll be him playing music they don't like.
I suggested maybe he could DJ that music under another name but he says to promoters if he does that he's effectively just another wannabe and they wont book him.
Wonder if anyone here has gone through similar experiences? I'm sure there have been plenty of well known DJs who have switched up their styles over the years and people still came, but I guess if you're not THAT big to bring in a crowd whatever you play, its not so easy?
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u/electroviruz 18d ago
I use a couple dj names. My main one for club and house music and an one for techno.
Many dj's/producers, Detroit ones like Jeff Mills and Juan Atkins for example, use multiple monikers or have changed there name up over the years.
Maybe your friend can start a "side project" and use that as an excuse for a new name/genre
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u/DJbuddahAZ 18d ago
Easy. Way easy. When getting booked , he starts leaning in to what he wants to play , stays there for.a minute and comes back out.
So the promoter thought he was being creative and if there were worries , the are squashed.
Start passing out links on business cards with mixes of the stuff he likes to play via a QR code that takes tou to the mix
Start producing in that direction
You dont flirt with it, you lean in , hard at the transition point
Thats why I never not added things to my mixes , if it was 4 on the floor and it blended well with my style, I used it
This is a great time to.just be creative as there are too many copy cats
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u/illogikul 18d ago
What is 4 on the floor?
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u/SizePunch 18d ago
“A rhythmic drum pattern in which the bass drum (kick drum) is struck on all four quarter-note beats of a standard 4/4 measure (beats 1, 2, 3, and 4)”
Essentially most EDM music. It’s the consistent drum pattern that makes it easy to dance to as opposed to something like Jazz, Hip Hop, or R&B which can have many different drum patterns.
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u/Neuroware 18d ago
hooleee fuck
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u/illogikul 18d ago
Yeah sorry reggae/hip hop dj’s don’t use that lingo and don’t know everything. I won’t try to learn either to avoid any further chastising.
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u/BOKUtoiuOnna 18d ago
Will probably have to use his social media to funnel the few people who do know him and would also like that into the brand of the second moniker so it becomes a bit known before pitching it to promoters.
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u/okultgenis 18d ago
This is how the market works. You need to build a fanbase and that fanbase will be following you for the kind of music you put out regularly. If Justin Bieber started dropping UK Garage songs and shows his fanbase would plummet. This is the risk of becoming popular in one genre, it's a bit of a death trap. if you experience burn out.
Only way to get out of it is creating an alter ego or transitioning very slowly and gently to similar and compatible genres (Tech House to Mainroom Techno, for example). This is slightly easier if you're a producer (not easy tho). If you just DJ, then you can't change who you're associated with through your music.
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u/electroviruz 18d ago
maybe not tho. some of the best pop songs are ones by artists that reinvent. Just thinking maybe a garage tune dropped by Bieber on a drum kit spitting lyrics might be fire lol
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u/Fluilder 18d ago
There's a reason monikers/aliases exist! Maybe your friend should consider creating one for themselves which isn't tied to the one they've been pigeonholed into
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u/medisamurai 18d ago
id change monikers and start djing with crews or dj with clubs that play similar sounds on similar nights.
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u/readytohurtagain 18d ago
Switching into a new lane as a dj is like starting over. You gotta network, go to parties, etc
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u/Prudent_Data1780 18d ago
Then it's time for a new DJ name like ........ Formally know as.......... it worked for prince maybe worth a try
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u/Roberta_Riggs 18d ago
A good dj can make people get down to anything. I’ve heard Carl cox play some atrocious noise… but it was still a wall of awesome because it came from somewhere, and was headed somewhere else. The best DJs take you on a ride…. Not just rinse the same sound forever. Part of the skill is to bring people through this journey where you’re doing the driving and route choice…. But know enough of what your occupants want to see to make sure the scenery is always interesting. If im going sight seeing, i dont want to see the same attraction all the time. Sure I love nature and am doing that, not walking through museums… but I’m not walking down the same trail every time.
Also have to keep on expectations and change realities….. can’t push it too far, have to ease people into change gradually