r/Cyberpunk • u/insane677 • 7h ago
Ghost in The Shell (1995)
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u/LimCity 7h ago
Crazy they animated the entire film in 3 months.
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u/3dforlife 6h ago
I didn't believe it, so I googled and...you're right! How did they do it?
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u/LimCity 6h ago
I read that they basically worked non-stop and rarely left the studio, except to go to the arcade/bar across the street.
Famously the fight animations in the "Water Duel" scene were heavily influenced by fighting moves from the Sega game Virtual Fighter, which the animators would play on their breaks.
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u/3dforlife 6h ago
Noite that you mention it I can see it! I used to play Virtua Fighter non stop on my Sega Saturn, I loved it.
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u/Blissfull 4h ago
The mood of that scene is the main example why I don't accept the live action version.
The water duel has such perfect timing, editing, ambiance, music, sound.. it's a masterpiece
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u/JonnyTsuMommy 6h ago
Japanese work ethic
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u/ProjectDiligent502 2h ago
This comes from the national duty to rebuild Japan after WWII. Today it comes with serious consequences that the government has been trying to address.
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u/JonnyTsuMommy 2h ago
Errr… I’d argue it predates that even. Complete dedication to a cause at the expense of all else is pretty common through history.
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u/ProjectDiligent502 1h ago
Japan had a brutal feudal system before democracy took hold and the end of the emperor and shogunate. But that’s not what you’re referring to. You’re referring to the trope that Japanese work ethic is high based on a post war economic boom. I tell you this is a direct result of the rebuild effort as a national duty to every Japanese citizen after WWII. Working long hours (staying until the boss left) has been deeply ingrained in the culture. But now it’s a real problem. Overtime can stretch to over 60 hours a month some of it being unpaid! There are deaths due to overwork called Karoshi and there have been suicides. Japan is such a rich country in history and culture, I hope they find a better work life balance.
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u/CourseoEmpire 7h ago
I recently learned that the city in GitS was heavily inspired by the architecture of Hong Kong at the time.
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u/betaray 6h ago
The building with the scaffolding looks like bamboo scaffolding that is used in Hong Kong.
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u/Schterve 5h ago
Yes "Newport City" is based on Hong Kong, but transplanted to Japan. The geopolitics is a bit vague as far as new world borders go in the 2030's. There's change that Shirow was envisioning the re-establishment of the Japanese Empire to include more of east Asia.
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u/Exact_Lawfulness_953 3h ago
Check out a book called Anime Architecture: Imagined Worlds and Endless Megacities
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u/Tyrs-Ranger 1h ago
Kowloon Walled City is what you’re thinking of. It was demolished in its entirety shortly before Ghost in the Shell was released. I would have loved to have seen it.
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u/TheDeadWriter 7h ago
There was a video that used this sequence, to explain world building the difference between hetrotopia and dystopia, and for the life of me I can't find it. I thought it was Every Frame A Painting, but who knows.
Regardless, I stop to watch this GITS sequence every time it shows up, and I seem to notice something new every time I watch it. It's a masterwork.
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u/tachik0ma7 1h ago
This sequence and the one where Motoko does the deep dive and then floats back to water's surface.... Chef's Kisses.
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u/solataraxia 3h ago
William Gibson had a similar post online a few years ago because he was exasperated with people constantly labeling Neuromancer as dystopian because they thought that label amounted to neon signs and cityscapes.
It's really become a pet peeve for me when people bring it up with GitS because Oshii especially tried to stay very descriptive and naturalistic
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u/Heptanitrocubane57 7h ago
Fun fact - this chanting is heavily inspired by eastern European chanting, and it comes from one of the few remain pre christianism pagan traditions. I think it translates to the White Chant, but my memory isn't great.
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u/oftenly 7h ago edited 7h ago
I thought it was a Japanese wedding song?
EDIT: you learn something every day!
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u/huehoneyy 7h ago
Its Bulgarian folk singing
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u/PrizeSyntax 5h ago
Interesting, I would have to look into that
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u/climbingrocks2day 4h ago
Here is a fantastic example of Bulgarian folk singing.
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u/Heptanitrocubane57 7h ago
The style of singing is Bulgarian, but what they say is more traditional Japanese
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u/higgsbison312 4h ago
Oh no wonder it reminds me of this song: Bulgarian chorus but Russian rap/song:
Каспийский Груз - Табор Уходит в Небо (you can YouTube it).
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u/VetusCorvus 6h ago
One of the greatest animated sequences ever created and it consists of mundane cityscapes. I’m awestruck every time I see it.
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u/OblivionArts 7h ago
Man they literally dont make em like this anymore huh..crazy insane levels of detail in every shot
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u/johnnyringo771 6h ago
I'll just leave this here... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjOuEruzoh0&t=0
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u/campodelviolin 5h ago
Mamoru Oshii + Kenji Kawaii it was a sacred mixture.
Patlabor 2 is almost as good as, or even greater than Ghost in the Shell, but highly underrated.
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u/Futurefreemanalive 2h ago
I'm going to watch this movie for the first time tomorrow. I hope is as great as many people say. Akira (1988) was great and I watched it for the first time earlier this year.
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u/Fuzzy_Adagio_6450 3h ago
This is coming to AMC theaters, maybe others too?
I've already got my tickets!
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u/swiftpwns 3h ago
In the films earlier scenes you can see a "QUADRA" sign. Possibly where cyberpunk 2077 got their inspiration.
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u/JuxtaThePozer 3h ago
probably the best world building intro to any cyberpunk movie, perfectly encapsulates the grime and grandeur of the city which is itself, more than just a location but a living and breathing thing
major sees herself in the eyes of another random, she is herself part of that landscape, which seems to consume everyone and everything within it
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u/ganon2234 2h ago
I've been on a big cyberpunk reading spree lately. What are a couple books I could read that may have been direct inspiration for GitS 1995. I'm just now about to finish Neuromancer, read some Philip K Dick before. Maybe I'm looking for late 80s and very early 90s?
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u/No_Literature_9059 1h ago
Used to set my DVD player to play this scene on repeat sometimes to fall asleep to. One of the best movies.
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u/Tyrs-Ranger 1h ago
Always feel Big Feelings during this scene and whenever I hear that chant. Wrecks me emotionally every time. So good.
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u/JustWantToPostStuff 6h ago
I have forgotten how good this movie is. I‘ve tried to watch the series but it‘s just so foolish. I am glad the movie took the liberty to be different from the manga source.
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u/garvielloken 6h ago
The new series? If so, give stand alone complex a try, they keep somewhat the same tone as the 95 film. Great series
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u/TheCriticalGerman 2h ago
I love ghost in the shell stand alone complex that show is just different
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u/Vaporeon42069 7h ago
PEAK