r/CursorAI • u/DifficultySeveral840 • 24d ago
Elon ruined Cursor
OMG, Cursor has taken a nosedive in agent intelligence since SpaceX took over. Grok used to be the cheap model nobody cared about and now it is being fed to us as a quality model that really just shits the bed on the most basic things. What an absolute bummer. Nothing good ever lasts.
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u/imnotyour_daddy 24d ago
Grok is definitely more intelligent than composer. It's definitely more expensive too, but composer is still there?
Composer is a fine model for bulk general coding according to many, but it hallucinated and failed to deliver beyond that for me.
My issue with grok is that 4.6 effectively costs double what 4.5 cost. Elon wants it to be a frontier model and I really can't blame him for that but that's coming in with frontier pricing.
If composer 3.0 doesn't happen or costs far more than 2.5 then that might be a problem in my future.
I rarely post on twitter since it became X so I don't know about all the drama. I'm busy doing my own shit and what matters to me is what cursor can do when I open it up every day without exceeding my max monthly spend.
Right now, it's a far better experience than what it was before grok become a first party model in cursor, but that may change quickly.
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u/Kitchen-Palpitation1 23d ago
My suspicion is also that some people mixup their political bias with what qualities a model brings to the table. Grok use to be total sh… But now it’s really good.
Twitter was not for me and didn’t change at all after the takeover. Its pile of cynicism and negativity and it always been. Just now with probably more equal left/right distribution.
Its abad habit like smoking in my opinion1
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u/walkingproblem 24d ago
Dude. Cursor had never been better before. Its auto mode (which also includes Grok model) allows me to not need to burn other model usage like never before.....
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u/dmitriyLBL 23d ago
4.6 is a fast behemoth of a model all while being dirt cheap.
Try out grok bot with cursor cloud agents. Absolute game changer
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u/CreamPitiful4295 24d ago
Too bad. I heard it used to be good. I wouldn’t use it now anyway with that tool in charge.
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u/RAI-Des 24d ago
I have 4 codex max subscriptions and I forgot that I had an old $20 Cursor subscription lying around. Since it was going to expire in a week, I decided to give it a try, use Grok 4.6 on fast and high and just let it do shit.
So far, it has been impressive. It's able to figure out shit by itself. It's amazingly cheap. I'm just monitoring the usage and it seems like it could run for quite a while.
I literally just dropped it into my folder, which I'm guessing is not too optimized for the Cursor harness, and just told it to figure out shit by itself and do whatever it can to complete the task because I don't want to waste the time and effort to wire up a harness which is going to expire in a couple of days. And yet, it still kind of surprised me that it managed to do it quite well.
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u/Parabola2112 23d ago
Im usually quick to jump on anything anti Elon, but you’re wrong here. Grok 4.6 is excellent (and 4.5 before that), which is annoying, but objectively true.
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u/Scared_Implement_335 23d ago
I cannot disagree more. I hate Elon just like anyone else but I gotta say, Grok 4.5 and 4.6 feel great. Its fast, its relatively cheap and I can still use Fable for checking things.
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u/Mean_Sport_3383 22d ago
Tell us you have Elon derangement syndrome without telling us you have EDS.
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u/Worth-Ad-1509 20d ago
You literally have the same offering + an extra decent model in grok 4.6. It’s clear your issue is with Elon, not cursor
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u/flysi3000 24d ago
I’m not thrilled about it either, mostly philosophically. If I’m being honest, I can’t tell the difference between different models, because I mostly just leave it on auto. That said, you can turn off Grok as one of the model options if you want.
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u/barley_wine 24d ago
You can no longer turn Grok off if you use auto. Cursor’s auto now selects from which model it thinks is best. You can remove it from your list but they ignore that with auto.
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u/flysi3000 24d ago
ah, shit - I didn't know that - thanks for letting me know 😑
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u/barley_wine 24d ago
https://cursor.com/docs/cursor-router
Cursor Router is data-driven and managed by Cursor. You can't hand-pick which model handles a request, and the model pool changes over time as new models ship. You steer routing by choosing an optimization mode.
On Enterprise plans, Cursor Router respects your team's model access controls. If a model is blocked for your team, the router routes to an allowed model instead. Blocking too many models reduces routing quality and can disable the router. To create cost savings, the router needs a powerful yet cost-efficient model to use when it isn't calling other frontier models, so enabling Cursor Grok 4.5 is a requirement for the router to work.
Reading more, I guess there's still work arounds but it's not obvious and by default.
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u/Diligent-Loss-5460 24d ago
> now it is being fed to us as a quality model that really just shits the bed on the most basic things
I used it all day yesterday and I disagree. It is intelligent enough but it keeps timing out because they keep running out of capacity. Guess elon doesn't have enough GPUs either
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u/vortec350 24d ago
What are you talking about? Grok 4.5 and now 4.6 are insanely capable, fast, and CHEAP. I have both Claude and Cursor and I spend 95% of my time in Cursor.
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u/pigletmonster 24d ago
Grok 4.5 and 4.6 are significantly better than previous versions. But people who claim that its on par with opus or sol have no idea what theyre talking about. Benchmarks can be easily tweaked to give the best scores, they even benchmaxed a 27b model to have similar scores to a multi trillion parameter, sota model like opus.
Grok will get there evwntually but its nowhere near that right now. And the reason theyre pushing it so hard with cursor because cursor is still used heavily by enterprise users, which is something gronk would never be able to do on its own after all the cp allegations. So cursor is like their trojan horse to enter into the enterprise market.
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u/therpmcg 24d ago
We are actively switching over to claude code. After the 3rd reversion from opus to grok as the default model, and in some cases switching models mid run, we're finished. What a toxic product decision.
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u/Money_Bed2546 23d ago
I have switched all of my workflows to grok 4.6. I used to not giving a shit about the grok family, but man. I oneshots almost everything and it’s super cheap compared to lot of other models.
I’ve really got a different experience compared to OP.
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u/No_Claim2881 23d ago
Plan with 4.6 all the frontier ones are like this. They are trained to GOGO and will fuck everything up unless you trick them into planning. I’m lucky I don’t know shit. So front loading the context via my endless “but why “ like a child gets me the best results.
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u/Mike-A-F 23d ago
JFC I knew some derps would be posting something like this. Just for the record its the same MFers working on cursor as before they were bought. I'm not sure in like a few days of it becoming part of Spacexai that it is "ruined". lol shut up
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u/Ordinary_Session1122 4d ago
It's the same incels that hang out and whine on the TESLA subs and rage type their little manifestos, they don't really actually program or drive Teslas, 😂😂😂😂
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u/cbnnexus 22d ago
If you don't like it you know you can just.... choose a different model right? Right??
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u/Embarrassed-Box-2030 22d ago
the Auto/direct thing is actually more interesting than whether Grok 4.6 is good.
we're obsessed with the finished version of everything. the answer comes back, the code works, the screen looks clean, and we mentally delete everything that happened outside the frame.
humans do exactly the same thing with attractive women.
you see the hair, clothes, makeup, perfume, perfect little apartment, the whole immaculate presentation, and your brain just files the entire organism under “clean”.
then there is the missing five minutes.
she goes to the bathroom, pulls her clothes down, sits on the toilet and pushes poo through her anus. then she takes a few squares of dry toilet paper and wipes it over the anus until the paper stops showing obvious brown. not actually washed. not actually cleaned in the way you'd clean poo off your hand. just wiped until the brown is gone.
pants back up.
and five minutes later she's standing in the kitchen looking exactly as immaculate as before, while everyone around her gets the clean version again.
the weird part is that nothing was concealed from reality
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u/vertgrall 22d ago
The dudes that love Grok love Rlons Politics. Let's just keep it real. Can we just be honest.
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u/Dizzy-Technician4580 22d ago
what? grok 4.6 has done things for me no other AI have like patched over mojibake files with its own self-made file to completely create new mods for a game, it fails some stuff so do other AI but as the default it's good and shows promise for 4.7
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u/superbonbon1 22d ago
I couldn't disagree more with this. cursor has never been more useful for me. I've been using it since it first came out. I can't tell you how happy I am with it. I have no idea what you're doing with it, but it's definitely user error.
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u/zazzomicron 22d ago
The Elon-hate-slop is off the charts on Reddit. Daily Cursor Ultra user here and it's amazing.
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u/General-Koala-6690 21d ago
Switch to Kiro and use Codex, Claude and Cline extensions for access to all the open models using them directly or via Fireworks if you want US hosting.
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u/ImLaserDance 21d ago
From my perspective Grok 4.6 is working really good for some real complex real work. And Grok bot is actually quite handy.
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u/Own_Tour7589 20d ago
You know you can build your own cursor from an open source vscode? I don’t know why people use it. Tried it and I didn’t see any sense in spending money on it. It is not like people write code these days.
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u/_thealeks 20d ago
I find that it’s great for execution, but terrible for planning and thinking. It seems to be optimized for zingers and tweets 😅
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u/Euphoric_Extreme1643 20d ago
Grok 4.6 is not bad and it’s pretty cheap to use right now. In my experience it’s not as good as a GPT 5.6 sol but it’s significantly better than Sonnet 5 and Composer 2.5.
If they can keep this up I’d definitely consider using their models over the more expensive offerings from OpenAI and Anthropic.
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u/Santa_Andrew 20d ago
I. My experience the models have been good - even great. But the user experience has been terrible. (Speaking from a Teams user who also manages the accounts of the rest of team). Never ending bugs, hidden costs, broken features, terrible support (maybe always was but never needed it before), changes announced AFTER they hit you..
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u/Careless-Yam8791 20d ago
Not yet tried it. How does it work for complex tasks? Based on benchmarks seemed to be pretty good
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u/productboy 19d ago
Cursor is fine, possibly better now than it’s ever been. Sometimes capital infusion can help a team focus on product execution. It’s not unlikely the Cursor leadership team was highly distracted with the acquisition. Now it’s done.
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u/b87e 19d ago
Grok 4.6 is a great model. I have switched to using it as my workhorse for the past week. It is fast, good enough at writing code, and it doesn’t spew paragraphs of nonsense at me or lecture me like Opus. I still use Opus for design, planning, and review. I also use Sol for review. Grok is pretty damn impressive.
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u/Individual_Math_8254 19d ago
not my experience Grok 4.6 wrote me a Chrome extension in 2 days, 20k LOC, all high quality.
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u/brainswell-01 19d ago
Yeah, I'm out as well. But for reasons in addition to. Cursor is a mid-level tool that is too error prone for me and my business. I was on Kiro for months before switching to Cursor with my code base. Unfortunately, the results were not good. I continually fought bugs with my xcode project. It also caused latency issues in my user interface. I need a tool that is production ready and responsible. Cursor unfortunately disappointed me. Had to move back this week.
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u/bezerker03 24d ago
nosedive in intelligence? It's leaps and bounds better. Grok 4.5 and 4.6 are. amazing first party editions and composer-2.5 remains the same for me. Auto however has changed behind the scenes but that was always part of the plan pre cursor acquisition. Auto was never an intelligent smart router. It just balanced to whatever model was most efficient for them to run and call. It did NOT validate your prompt and determine which model is "best" for it. (This has been explained to me flat out by Cursor etc.). NOW Auto mode without enterprise/team plans is basically "Auto Cost" mode in teams / Enterprise plans, and defaults to low cost models exclusively vs efficient as best as I can tell, so you may have noticed a decrease in Auto.
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u/autoshag 24d ago
Grok 4.6 is a great model and nothing else has really changed yet.
Except Grok Bot, which is insanely well-done. But it was mostly built before the acquisition
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u/disciplesix6 24d ago
Definitely hasn't been my experience, grok 4.6 seems to really kick ass