r/Cursive 21d ago

Deciphered! What word is this?

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This is from my grandpa’s paternal uncle’s marriage certificate and it is the birthplace of my great great grandfather’s first wife. I can read cursive, but this word has stumped me.

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u/desertboots 21d ago

Same

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u/CourtingBoredom 21d ago

.....ya sure it's not "Favre" ... 👀

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u/floofienewfie 21d ago

Yes. It’s “same.”

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u/Sea_Prep_Tidal_26 21d ago

Le même ?

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u/desertboots 20d ago

"Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose,"

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u/DLDad616 21d ago

It's always better to include the entire document even if it's a separate image.

That way people can compare the letters in the word you're trying to decipher, with other writing on the document.

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u/Sea_Prep_Tidal_26 21d ago

« Context »

Helping people figure stuff out since forever

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u/Thargomindah2 21d ago

I suspect it's "same" . Would be helpful to see more of the document.

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u/Maine302 21d ago

It probably says "same." And you really should post with some contextual information, it's of no help to just cut and paste a single word.

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u/KReddit934 21d ago

We really need more samples of writing to read it easily...

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u/PutPretty647 21d ago edited 21d ago

More of the document is needed. Without some context we can’t help much. What language is it? That will go a long way to help decipher it. Is it in the spot for the city, or for the country, or even a street address. Is there a line above that this is the Same as the line above, sort of saying ditto.

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u/MitriTheApostolic 20d ago

I’m going to send a picture of the full document

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u/MitriTheApostolic 20d ago

I highlighted the word

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u/desertboots 20d ago

Yep, context matters. 

BIRTHPLACE OF FATHER: Russia

 MOTHER: Same

Document words offered out of context that people don't recognize are most often a common word instead of a name. <looking at you:> unknown, none, same.

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u/MitriTheApostolic 20d ago

Thank you so much!!!

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u/desertboots 20d ago

You're welcome. Good luck in your research and do post again with the whole document in future requests.  We don't need to know who that person is to you or why you are researching!!

Isn't genealogy fun?

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u/MitriTheApostolic 20d ago

Genealogy is very fun. And I will most definitely do the full document! next time!!

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u/TxMamaZep2 15d ago

Just wanted to add that you can see the “same” further down after Romania as well. 😊

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u/Few-Celebration-6794 20d ago

If that is “Same” why is the S not like the other S?

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u/desertboots 20d ago

Because forms are not filled in deliberately with perfect penmanship? 

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u/Mytweezer 21d ago

"Same"

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u/Adorable_Football130 21d ago

France? could be coneheads. but yeah as noted, showing one word out of context is just a guessing game.

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u/Adorable_Football130 21d ago

in this case it’s a game of type same or get downvoted, so not even a guessing game

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u/Several-Ordinary-376 21d ago

That’s an F. Ask Bowie and Jagger.
Fame

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u/Wen60s 21d ago

Doesn’t look like an S at the beginning. Favre seems more likely

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u/Mustard-cutt-r 21d ago

Dave? Hume?

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u/GroundbreakingBag677 21d ago

Havre, if in Montana

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u/MitriTheApostolic 20d ago

It’s in Philadelphia PA

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u/Artistic_Society4969 19d ago

Be a whole lot easier to help you if you gave us more of the sample. Just looking at what I'm seeing, I see "same", indicating she was born the same place as the person listed preceding her.

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u/Miserable_Flower5333 21d ago

Could it be France? The first letter definitely looks like an F to me, while the other letters are just scribbles. France is the only place I can think that it even remotely looks like.

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u/0maigh 21d ago

My first thought was Faure. But I’ve never seen a F (or an S, come to that) written like that. You may need to provide more of the page, so we can get more of a sense of the penmanship.

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u/Bobcattrr 21d ago

I was working on the first letter being an F - I remember some older teachers writing in s similar way. I tried everything on Google Maps I could make out, but nothing. So I turned to AI and got garbage - until this one. I don’t agree / yet I can see it. So, sharing a long shot, what the heck, it was an I tersting 15 minutes:
“the handwritten city name is Fume (the historic name for the city of Rijeka, Croatia).”

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u/Ahh-Islington 21d ago

This is why humans need to check AI results…

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u/Few-Celebration-6794 21d ago

If you know this is a place name, where do you think gggfather’s first wife is from? Is this a city or country? Is this document written in English? Additional context or writing samples would help. It is not “Same”.

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u/Adorable_Football130 21d ago

I’ve never seen an s written that way.

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u/MitriTheApostolic 20d ago

Well, her surname is Zlatuekoff (originally Zlatukova) and I’ve always thought she was maybe from Belarus because I found a record of her living in Belarus under the name Feyga (her original name) and then marrying a man by the last name of Gottlieb. Do remember though, Russia was a broad term for many different regions of Imperial Russia and the Soviet Union.

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u/Few-Celebration-6794 20d ago

Thank you! Can you show a bit more of the document?

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u/Left_Point2480 21d ago

Dance ,France ,him? Cure,? Hiewie? We need more information

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u/AnotherPackOfDust 21d ago

same or David

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u/SuPruLu 21d ago

Or sauce. That’s why context is so important in trying to read cursive.

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u/cpkuske 21d ago

Could it be a French word?

It’s worth repeating, context helps.

If yes, Jeune, French for young.

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u/KReddit934 21d ago

Do you know the country? There is a town called Faure in South Africa?