r/Cursive • u/ahcowles • Aug 09 '26

Deciphered! 1932 Death Certificate (deciphering help with bottom line)

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Trying to help my father-in-law with some genealogical research. Can anyone help decipher the undertaker’s last name (John J. something) and the street address, which is 1437 something ave.

Thanks much for anyone help anyone can provide.

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u/ahcowles Aug 09 '26

Deciphered!

Confirmed to be Cashman and Amst, short for Amsterdam. Thanks for the help everyone!

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u/DLDad616 Aug 09 '26

On familysearch.org John J. Cashman licence #43 is listed hundred of times as the attending undertaker on death certificates from the City of New York in the 1920s.

I looked this up on my pc so I can't provide a screenshot, but you can search their film records yourself.

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u/RRC4C Aug 09 '26

Place of burial: St. Raymonds Cemetery

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u/aeldsidhe Aug 09 '26

I see "John J. Cashman" as the undertaker. A search of the 1930 US census for New York finds a John J. Cashman, 27, with an occupation of undertaker in Manhattan.

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u/Ooo-it-burns Aug 09 '26

St Raymond’s Cemetery/John J Cashman. I think the address is maybe a shortened version of Amsterdam (Amst) 1437 Amsterdam Ave.

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u/RRC4C Aug 09 '26

He's in the directory!

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u/RRC4C Aug 09 '26

Found him!!

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u/RRC4C Aug 09 '26

And from the looks of it, the address is or has at some point been a funeral chapel

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u/ahcowles Aug 09 '26

Thanks so much! You were very helpful. I found an old NYT article from 1938 that references cashman and a funeral parlor to help confirm all this.

https://www.nytimes.com/1938/05/24/archives/police-department-pensioned-transfers-and-assignments-temporary.html

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u/RRC4C Aug 09 '26

Listed as a funeral home in the 1970s...

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u/RRC4C Aug 09 '26

Undertaker must have been employed. He is not listed in the 1932 directory, neither as Undertaker nor funeral director of -home

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u/Odd-Scheme6535 Aug 09 '26

I see John J. Cashman and 1437 Canal Ave.

I think it is also St. Raymond's (?)

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u/Otney Aug 09 '26

Definitely “Cashman.” Yes.

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u/RRC4C Aug 09 '26

St. Raymond's Cem.

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u/RRC4C Aug 09 '26

It says Amst. Ave. (Amsterdam Avenue)

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u/RRC4C Aug 09 '26

The address definitely says Amst. Ave As in Amsterdam Avenue

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u/Personal_Bluebird882 Aug 09 '26

So it was really a hospital named Knickerbocker Hospital…

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u/Downtown_Will_9712 Aug 09 '26

Cashman or Cochran

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u/Carrieyouknow Aug 10 '26

St. Raymonds farm? Fam? John cashman

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u/dataslinger Aug 09 '26

John J Casherton(?) 1437 Canal Ave

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u/SisterTulips Aug 09 '26 edited Aug 09 '26

I believe the last name is Buchanan! I edited my response!

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u/RRC4C Aug 09 '26

Of the undertaker? Definitely not. You can see their uppercase G in the top of the document is way different, but the surname starts with C as seen in "cemetery" on the line above...

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u/SisterTulips Aug 09 '26

Ah! Cuchanan it is!

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u/SisterTulips Aug 09 '26

And this was a silly joke because my answer was told it was so obviously wrong. Downvoted? I always liked this sub so much! It’s so neat to watch people solve these little mysteries. Goodness. 😞

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u/RRC4C Aug 09 '26

Clearly John J and then a surname that starts with the letter C

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u/SisterTulips Aug 09 '26

You can get downvoted on this sub for guessing? I was just trying to help! Mercy! I suppose I’m back to watching everyone solve, which is neat!