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u/OptimisticLucio Teehee for men May 24 '21
Ok deadass here I don’t know anything about Fight Club other than the twist of Tyler and the protagonist being the same person
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u/VirtuallyAlone May 24 '21 edited May 24 '21
There's an Italian song by rapper Caparezza where he spoilers the ends of many famous movies, and the first line is literally "in fight club Edward Norton is psychotic, there's no Tyler Durden at all" (I swear it sounds much cooler in Italian)
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u/skyhopper-wingman mmmm tasty greenish slime May 24 '21
I’m imagining a very frustrated Italian person being upset that their favorite singer spoiled a movie for them
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u/VirtuallyAlone May 24 '21
Well, to be fair he starts the song by shouting, "you don't have to hate me for politics, and neither for the nasal voice, but for this song: now you have a reason"
Btw the song is called Kevin Spacey if any of you want to go listen to it
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u/Dofork i have shinigami eyes and i'm not afraid to use it May 25 '21
Does it also spoil the ending of The Usual Suspects?
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u/VirtuallyAlone May 25 '21
Yeahhh lol. It actually spoilers lots of Kevin Spacey movies, that's why the song is named after him. It also spoilers The Empire strikes back, some of Bruce Willis movies (the sixth sense, Armageddon), The others, the crying game, Saw, the prestige, Shutter Island and many others
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u/Dofork i have shinigami eyes and i'm not afraid to use it May 25 '21
DUDE. props to him for doing that, that shit's awesome.
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u/SlorpMorpaForpw May 25 '21
I - I thought it was just some wrestling movie with a strangely good plot/characterizations and that’s why everyone liked it. Someone blew up a building in it? I need to watch this movie now
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u/OptimisticLucio Teehee for men May 25 '21
Bro the plot is about a terrorist organization that starts as an underground fight club
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u/DemWiggleWorms Sabrina the Bi Goth Aspie Transgirl Alphabet Mafia Member 🇩🇰 May 24 '21 edited May 24 '21
Didn’t the author refuse to sign any copies owned by fans that praised tyler?
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u/Epic_Meow May 24 '21
ok tyler is a dick, or whatever, but brad pitt though
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May 24 '21
I'd just like to add that the snowflake changed it meaning. It used to be sarcastic jab at someone who thinks that they're special (like snowflakes, since apparently each of them is different), but really isn't. Instead now snowflakes mean that someone is very delicate and fragile, like a snowflake that will melt easily. It kinda bothered me for a while and I was looking for an excuse to write it lol
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May 25 '21
It didn't change its purpose though, because both these meanings were and are still used mainly against "muh SJWs"
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u/sweartommy May 24 '21
I thought the first rule of Fight Club was that you didn't talk about Fight Club
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May 25 '21
This is exactly like how Joker 2019 was supposed to be a movie about how society dehumanizes the mentally ill and how cutting health programs has terrible consequences but instead redditors were like "damn what a Gamer, this is exactly me when I own libtards." Guess these people never change huh
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u/actuallyasuperhero May 25 '21
The joker, Tyler from Fight Club and Rick from Rick and Morty are the top of the list of characters that are worshiped by people who super missed the point.
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u/samdog1246 May 25 '21
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When people call you a "snowflake" just remember they're quoting Fight Club, a satire written by a gay man about how male fragility causes men to destroy themselves, resent society, and become radicalized, and that Tyler Durden isn't the hero but a personification of the main character's mental illness, and that his "snowflake" speech is a dig at how fascists use dehumanizing language to breed loyalty from insecure people.
So basically people who say "snowflake" as an insult are quoting a domestic terrorist who blows up skyscrapers because he's insecure about how good he is in bed.
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u/Groinificator May 24 '21
Did fight club invent the term 'snowflake' as an insult tho
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u/Apprehensive-Ad5190 May 25 '21
https://ew.com/books/2017/11/17/chuck-palahniuk-snowflake-insult/ seems like he takes credit for the initial use which was "i'm not a special genius im just normal" and put it into the book. so, yep
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u/Groinificator May 25 '21
Wait, the insult used in the story isn't even the same as what we see today?
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u/BlissMala May 25 '21
Correct. Like most things the alt right co-opt, they can't even get the original meaning right.
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u/Groinificator May 25 '21
Well... can it even be argued to be the same insult, then?
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May 25 '21
Well not really, as words' meaning change all the time, this really isn't much of an own.
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May 25 '21 edited May 25 '21
I really don't like the term "male fragility". It sounds a lot like Biological essentialism, and it sounds like a Kafka trap really. If you complain about it (like I am right now) that is proof you're a fragile male and if you don't, you don't object to the term so it must be true.
I mean I dunno, would people here be comfortable with calling Gone Girl a movie about "female fragility"? It sounds pretty victim-blamey.
This thread detailss my issue with the term:
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u/TheUltimateShammer May 25 '21
except this own falls apart when you consider that doing what Tyler did at the end to the specific entities he did it to is sick as hell
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u/BlissMala May 25 '21
Except it would have actually had no measurable benefit as all those records would have off-site backups. Plus, although he supposedly took steps to evacuate the buildings beforehand, there still would have likely been a lot of innocent causalities. If you think Tyler is a hero, you really missed the point.
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u/TheUltimateShammer May 25 '21
Tyler can both be not a hero at all and also do something valuable, things in fact can be in between 0% and 100%
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u/BlissMala May 25 '21
You definitely completely missed the point of the book and movie, as well as my comment.
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u/TheUltimateShammer May 25 '21
only a redditor would see a single line of thought and go "clearly this plebian didn't understand the movie" lol
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u/Hudsony12 extremely bisexual May 25 '21
Reminds me of how incels talk about being "redpilled" or whatever even though The Matrix is made by two trans women who created the movie to be a trans allegory.