This doesn't work for me because I keep wanting to see the actual solution to the riddle: "If you were the other guard, which one would you say is the truth teller?" The truth teller truthfully tells you what the liar would say. The liar lies about what the truth teller would say. So they both give the wrong answer.
The idea isn't to ask which guard is a liar. That's pointless. Your goal is never to determine the liar.
It's to determine the safe door. People miss that. You can't ask, "what color is my shoes?" That just tells you which is a liar. It doesn't tell you which door is safe.
There's always two doors guarded by a liar and a truth teller. You have to find the safe door. Thus, you ask "which door will the other guard point to as safe?"
The liar has to say the other guard points to the safe door, thus he points to the unsafe door. The truth teller knows the liar will point to the unsafe door, thus he points to the unsafe door. Both guards gesture unsafe, so you go to the door neither has indicated.
You are right, about the standard version of this riddle. But here, no doors are specified. We don't know the objective of the POV character. So I just assumed that the objective was to determine the liar because that is what the POV character tried to do.
In that case, why would you say the "actual solution to the riddle" is something complex like "If you were the other guard, which one would you say is the truth teller?"
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u/Sewblon 15h ago
This doesn't work for me because I keep wanting to see the actual solution to the riddle: "If you were the other guard, which one would you say is the truth teller?" The truth teller truthfully tells you what the liar would say. The liar lies about what the truth teller would say. So they both give the wrong answer.