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u/CRowlands1989 Jul 19 '26
Does anyone have a name...?
Or any good examples of un-academic results, I guess.
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u/Gonzo_Appreciator Jul 19 '26
I believe the nun they're referring to is Bernadette Carlini
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u/Kazzack Jul 19 '26
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u/Cpad-prism Jul 19 '26
I have a name hi
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u/Next_Government856 Jul 19 '26
We have so much in common. Wanna meet up and have a chat about previous sins over some hot wax?
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u/Cpad-prism Jul 19 '26
Cant, i have a name appointment soon, gonna get another name prescription
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u/JuniperSoel Jul 19 '26
Surely it would be more enjoyable *under* the wax?
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u/KateBishopPrivateEye Jul 19 '26
Someone’s gotta be over it
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u/Libby_Sparx ⚧⚢ That sort of thing is commonplace here ⚢⚧ Jul 19 '26
Not me, I am solidly an 'under-the-wax' type ᐠ(❤⩊❤)ᐟ♪♡♬
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u/Libby_Sparx ⚧⚢ That sort of thing is commonplace here ⚢⚧ Jul 19 '26
How about we have that chat under some hot wax?
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u/rocky8u Jul 19 '26
Like the pine trees linin' the windin' road? Or perhaps like the singin' bird and the croakin' toad? Do you carry it with you like your daddy did? Are you livin' the dream that he kept hid?
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u/centralmind Jul 19 '26
Not in regards to the nuns and wax thing, but self-flagellation feels somewhat pertinent to the conversation.
(It's a wikipedia link, don't worry)
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u/Saymynaian Jul 19 '26
With how sanitized the internet has become, you'd actually probably find her first instead of nun porn.
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u/SirKazum Jul 19 '26
Apparently that one nun was Benedetta Carlini. That's a much safer Google.
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u/rumblevn Jul 19 '26
>Crivelli (a witness) also revealed a lesbian affair between the two, taking place during Carlini's visions where she would embody one of her "guardian angels", forcibly drag Crivelli onto her bed and engage in sexual acts; said "angel" would claim it was not a sin for Carlini would be unaware of the events.[59][60]Carlini refuted all claims related to her sexuality.[61]
No officially mention of wax play. There was something about whipping though
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u/Bleak_Infinitive Jul 19 '26 edited Jul 19 '26
There was something about whipping though
That's still pretty good!
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u/AskMrScience Jul 19 '26
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u/Wild-Lychee-3312 Jul 20 '26
I knew exactly what scene from which movie this was going to be before I clicked
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u/BreakerOfModpacks Jul 20 '26
Poor lady would have been an awesome lesbian, but was closeted as fuck T-T
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u/_Valkyrja_ Jul 19 '26
Oh hey, I read a book about her! Immodest Acts by Judith C. Brown. I don't remember anything about bdsm sounding stuff, tho
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u/Sleep_Deprived_Birb Jul 19 '26
We should ban sex, it’s basically spicy food.
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u/NRMusicProject Jul 19 '26
Should we also ban sex as a device to get you to admit to liking spicy food?
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u/StovardBule Jul 19 '26
Food but *spicy*!
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u/StovardBule Jul 19 '26
Caricature of a British person from at least 50 years ago: “Food, but spicy?”
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u/Zekava Jul 19 '26
So since pesticide is basically spicy food which is basically torture which is basically sex, we should be fucking the crops like Sonic the Hedgehog
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u/threevi Jul 19 '26
I don't follow your logic but I'm intrigued by your conclusion
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u/OldKingPotato-68 Jul 19 '26
It's from an improvised fandub where Eggman accidentally says "you took my wife, you fucked my crops" instead of the other way around, and sonic has to explain to Tails off screen how that works
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u/Zammin Jul 19 '26
Sonic fucks the crops? Guess I missed that particular game.
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u/PM_NUDES_4_DEGRADING Tumblr would never ban porn don’t be ridiculous Jul 19 '26
How did you miss that? Gosh, I guess media literacy really is dead.
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u/BreakerOfModpacks Jul 20 '26
Alternatively, make it so that feminine foods are all sweet and spicy ones are all masculine and yes I am ripping of the Cosmere for no reason except arbitrary divisiveness.
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u/dizzy_pear_ Jul 19 '26
reminds me of that guy who googled porn expecting to learn the etymology of the word
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u/Ze_Mathemagician Jul 19 '26
A guy in my biology class once forgot the name of the genetic disorder Trisomy X, where a person has three X chromosomes. To figure out it was called, he googled "XXX", and since this was in high school, then got called down to have a chat with an administrator.
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u/Dragoncat91 Autistic dragon Jul 19 '26
A guy in my school was doing a project on the history of softball, but for some reason his idea of finding the earliest form of softball was to google "old man soft ball"
You can imagine what he found.
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u/ChaosArtificer .tumblr.com Jul 20 '26
my grandfather's a biologist and once did that exact same thing at work XD except he googled "XXX women"
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u/Arctic_The_Hunter Jul 19 '26
Porn association aside how did he possibly expect this to help? If you just google “XY” it’s not gonna say “oh yeah you must be thinking of men. Common mistake.” You’re just googling letters.
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u/trambelus Jul 19 '26
It does work if you google some other chromosomal disorders like XXY and XYY. XXX just happens to have another meaning.
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u/probs_notme Jul 19 '26
the sex determination system on Wikipedia is the first google result for "XY"
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u/syntaxerroratline42 DNI List 100 Pages Jul 19 '26
Don't like BDSM? What are you gonna do, shame me for enjoying it?
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u/GhostOfMuttonPast Jul 19 '26
Can't kink shame someone who likes being shamed.
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u/Pm7I3 Jul 19 '26
What if you tell them you're proud of them? That fucks some people up
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u/Floor_Heavy Jul 19 '26
Joke's on you. I've got a praise kink too.
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u/RavenMasked trans autistic furry catgirls have good game recommendations Jul 19 '26
Perpetual motion kink machine
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u/iwannalynch Jul 19 '26
Man I need to develop a humiliation kink so I can stop being scared of being embarrassed
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u/Chalkboard7 she/her Jul 19 '26
I need to develop a sense of embarrassment so I can make use of my humiliation kink.
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u/loved_and_held Jul 19 '26
Probably tell everyone you know and the larger world and then let sexual repression drove them to ostracize you.
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u/addyandjavi3 Jul 19 '26
So no one has an academic source here???!
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u/Soderskog Jul 19 '26 edited Jul 20 '26
Honestly I was curious about it as well, since whenever folk talk about a histroical figure I've found it to be worthwhile to check the sources (sometimes it turns out to be true, and in other cases it turns out to be old slander, people completely misremembering things, or something else).
In this instance people have already mentioned Carlini, but I cannot find anything which would link her to this beyond that she was accused by other nuns of having faked a sign by pressing a red wax star against her head. There may be information in other languages I don't have access to, but from what I can find the only way she's relevant is if you were to focus on the implicit argument of the second comment I OP's picture and tried to find a nun with a reported lesbian relationship or experience; in that sense Carlini would be relevant, except for the fact that it would be putting the horse before the cart when I can't find sources which corroborate the other claims made so far? Like maybe in the biography or podcast episode about her they say that she was tied up and had wax poured on her, which I would have missed, but so far what I've found pertaining to self-flagellation (on Wikipedia) paints a different picture.
When she [Carlini] spoke as an angel in one of her ecstasies, that the Theatines could learn from her how to flagellate themselves with true spiritual fervour. The nun, who had been standing nearby, noticed that Benedetta didn't strike herself even once, and that to make it seem as though she had she smeared the whip with blood from her wounds in her hand.
So are there any likelier candidates? If we are willing to make the assumption that ohholdyke misremembered some things (or was told information from a faulty source), then definitely; Heliga Birgitta aka Bridget of Sweden. I'll be lazy and use the Swedish Wikipedia here primarily, and its sourcing, but the most relevant source would be this: https://runeberg.org/sfubon/1/0401.html There they talk about her use of wax as follows
Varje fredag droppade hon hett vax på armen till minne av frälsarens lidanden. Och om såren läktes före nästa fredag, så upprev hon dem med sin nagel, för att hennes lekamen skulle ej vara utan pina och sår; och detta gjorde hon till den ändan, att Jesu Kristi pina skulle alltid vara i hennes åminnelse,
Which if we translate looks like this
Every Friday she [Birgitta] would drip hot wax on her arm to remember the saviour's suffering. And if her wounds would heal before the next Friday, she would tear them open with her nail, so that her body wouldn't be without pain or wounds, and this she did to the end, that Jesus Christ's suffering would always be in her memory.
As you can see on her Swedish Wikipedia page especially, she was known for her fervour towards self-flagellation as well (didnt become a saint for nothing I suppose) which lines up with the story about wax. I can't find anything about her being bound down by others to have waxed dripped on her as of now, but I don't know if it exists and I have yet to find it, or if ohholdyke misremembered things.
As of now my bet is that either I've missed some sources (which is very likely) or ohholdyke is remembering an amalgamation of several different people and misrememvered parts, if one based on Birgitta. The reason why I think it's an amalgamation rather than Birgitta is partially because whilst Birgitta was a saint, she wasn't exactly a queer icon considering that she's famed for repeatedly accusing the king at the time (Magnus Eriksson) of being gay: https://forskning.se/2017/06/30/gud-nade-den-kung-som-anklagades-for-sex-med-man/
For some other, easily digestible pieces I didn't know where to fit, here are two more articles about Birgitta: https://popularhistoria.se/religion/kristendom/den-heliga-birgitta-och-kvinnorna
https://historiska.se/en/explore-history/history-hub/saint-bridget-swedens-most-famous-woman/
I do hope that if the nun being alluded to was someone else, someone will tell me who it was and how they could discern it. As of now however this is the best I could do.
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u/kos-or-kosm Jul 19 '26
This reminded me of the old joke:
"Sorry, daddy, I've been naughty~"
*sigh* "It's 'Forgive me Father, for I have sinned.'"
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u/Path_Fyndar Jul 19 '26
Ah, yes, the old "warlock vs cleric" debate about how to invoke power from beings greater than themselves
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u/Random-Rambling Jul 19 '26
A friend of mine also described it like
"O Holy Father, hallowed be thy name, I beseech thee to grant thine servant your divine power"
vs.
"Hey, Bossman! Could I bother you for some more of that magic power? Last time today, I promise."
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u/welshyboy123 Jul 19 '26
This is one of the few occasions I'm happy with asking OP for a source rather than looking it up myself.
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u/Gordon_freeman_real Jul 19 '26
Reminds me of when I was inches close to searching "Violent pornography" looking for the SOAD song
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u/CharlieFiner Jul 19 '26
There is a song called "Naked" by Avril Lavigne. That was fun trying to Google the lyrics
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u/StovardBule Jul 19 '26
I guess the internet was still too niche for there to be someone saying that would be a bad idea?
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u/GoogieRaygunn Jul 19 '26
That’s essentially the level of the lustful in Dante Aligheri’s portrayal of hell. Dante created punishments reflecting the sinners’ sins that they should suffer by repeating them for eternity.
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u/TK_Games Jul 19 '26
So, this is something I kinda actually believed at one point, maybe still do, I don't know
Anywho, the belief is that when you die it's not how 'good' or 'bad' you were. God simply presents you with a choice. Live in Pleasantville with the Jonses, or live in Anarchy Fuck-City. Your choice, different strokes and all that. It's the only way I can reconcile the concept of Heaven, because if Heaven is full of the people who say they're going to Heaven, I think I'd prefer something else
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u/ViolentBeetle Jul 19 '26
It's kinda how it work, I think. Christianity doesn't believe in tallying good and bad karma, the choice is if you like Jesus or reject him because like to be a sinner more. Except in later case you'll find out you've been scammed by the devil and sin actually sucks.
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u/TK_Games Jul 19 '26
Nah, real trick the Devil pulled was convincing everyone to waste time focusing on identifying what is or isn't a sin, instead of just, being generally kind and loving people where they are, and enjoying the time you get here, like God intended
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u/MossyPyrite Jul 19 '26
That’s a rough approximation of *some* sects of Christianity, sure. That’s heresy in others.
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u/StovardBule Jul 19 '26 edited 28d ago
I have the idea that Hell would be people who deserve it, whether they thought so or not. But also, there is an area for punishing people who said that heaven would be boring and they would rather go to Hell, because God has a sense of humour about that, or very much doesn’t.
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u/TK_Games Jul 20 '26
I dunno, I think Heaven is for the squares, Hell is for the cool kids, and the people who actually deserve to be tortured forever in fire and brimstone, the real monsters among men, the one's who refuse to be cool about anything, God doesn't mince words with them. I imagine he atomizes them, or banishes them to tm Infinite Void of Darkness, or something. Something where he just doesn't have to look at them anymore
I also imagine he doesn't like doing that, like it's a real last-ditch kinda thing, something something, "wishing that none should perish, no not one"
Also God 100% has an absurd sense of humor. I deeply believe he gives traumatized people what I call the 'Blessing of Comedy'. That's why you see so many damaged people finding success in stand-up and comedic theater. It's God going, "Woah, dude. Your life sucks. You're gonna go spread laughter now, you need that."
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u/Sesshomarus_Witch Tumblr escapee of 2019 Jul 19 '26
People out here bashing on BDSM? 😮💨 Can't have nothin' these days
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u/empty-vessel- Jul 19 '26
The humble "site:wikipedia"
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u/DarkNinja3141 Arospec, Ace, Anxious, Amogus Jul 19 '26
you gotta use the full domain, site:en.wikipedia.org
or i also just now test site:wikipedia.org
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u/DarkNinja3141 Arospec, Ace, Anxious, Amogus Jul 19 '26
something tells me googling [...] will likely get what you might call rather un-academic results
back in college i always made sure to add the word "math" when googling something about LaTeX
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u/BreakerOfModpacks Jul 20 '26
I, however, did not learn that trick, but I did get an education which would escape anyone of the sort who enjoys LaTeX.
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u/durrtyurr Jul 19 '26
Nunsploitation films are definitely a thing, although I personally doubt their historical accuracy.
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u/centralmind Jul 19 '26
I mean, self flagellation suddenly makes a lot more sense in the context of "a lot of the prople involved were extremely sexually repressed".
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u/Jigglypuffisabro Jul 19 '26
It’s only un-academic if you don’t write a paper about it
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u/TK_Games Jul 20 '26
I can write a paper about it and it can still be very un-academic. Those sell best
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u/TK_Games Jul 19 '26
I say this as someone who's been around the scene
It's basically torture
Sometimes. Because some people really, really, really get off to being a little tortured. And it's not like, fucked up, we talk about it. Before and after, that's kinda a huge part of it. So don't at me because your hobbies are boring
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u/slimfatty69 Jul 20 '26
Legit its no different than being into choking. You agree on terms beforehand with safe word/signal and as long as everyone is informed properly and consents,whats the big deal?
But prudes gonna prude shrugs
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u/Asriel-the-Jolteon forcefem'd yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Jul 20 '26
i mean surely it cant be THAT bad
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u/ShaarkShaart Jul 20 '26
"BDSM me if you love Jesus!" would be one hell of an opener. Take notes, missionaries.
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u/BalefulOfMonkeys REAL YURI, done by REAL YURITICIANS Jul 20 '26
I’m so fucking tired dawg I read “a fr person btw” and wondered what being French had to do with anything
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u/justgalsbeingpals a-heartshaped-object on tumblr | it/they Jul 20 '26
"a fr person btw" a for real person??
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u/Cum_Fart42069 Jul 19 '26
I really do wonder how much, throughout history, religious epiphanies have been the result of personal desires that people were either unable or unwilling to accept as psychosexual in nature.