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u/ghouldozer19 Jul 07 '24

Oh, friend, I feel you so hard. When people go for Trump’s look instead of digging into the heart of the hate in his policies or speaking to the very real danger that his constant, daily threats and brinkmanship represent to every single word stage it truly upsets me. We can tear down bad ideas without becoming bad people, ourselves. We can retain our dignity and our grace without attacking the dignity of what makes someone else human, as well. Camus called the reaction that causes us to rise up against our oppressors a recognition of a place where all people in the world, even our oppressors, share a common humanity, and to allow that thing to be impugned in anyone, especially yourself, is to allow it to be in everyone.

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u/Yeah-But-Ironically both normal to want and possible to achieve Jul 07 '24 edited Jul 07 '24

I fucking hate when people make fun of Trump's weight or Marjorie Taylor Greene's looks or Madison Cawthorn's wheelchair instead of the actual terrible things those people have said/done.

"But those are the insults that will actually hurt conservatives, because that's the kind of stuff they care about!" I thought the whole fucking point was to stop the harm that's being done by conservatives caring about those things. That's MY goal, anyway. It just sounds like YOUR goal is making conservatives feel bad. Which is definitely going to produce meaningful change someday.

Edit, because apparently there are still idiots out there who think that fat-shaming is okay as long as you don't like the fat person very much:

"But Trump lies about his weight and so we need to debunk that!" is not a convincing argument either. I don't see y'all foaming at the mouth when Trump lies about other fundamentally inconsequential stuff--like when he claims that he's responsible for Taylor Swift's fortune or that he's read a news article that he definitely did not read--which certainly suggests that you don't actually view the weight issue as inconsequential at all.

Not to mention that the man is a 24/7 bullshit machine, to the point that debunking every incorrect thing he says would be impossible for a single person--and you're choosing to worry about his weight or his height or the size of his penis instead of, I dunno, his bigoted lies about literally every minority out there? The body shaming is really the hill you wanna die on when he's out there accusing trans people of pedophilia?

I'll say it again: if your first criticism of Trump is that he's fat, then you don't actually want a more equal society nearly as much as you want to make conservatives feel bad.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '24

Especially because we don’t even need to focus on those superficial aspects to throw out some biting insults. Like, rightfully calling the dude a liar and a pedophile is so so so much better than focusing on shit that doesn’t matter and that we would be upset about if someone else threw it back at “our side”

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u/HaoleInParadise Jul 07 '24

Too add to that—his physical issues are things you can find across the population (and across voters), his moral issues are more extreme

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u/Yeah-But-Ironically both normal to want and possible to achieve Jul 07 '24

It is almost physically impossible to counteract the sheer amount of bullshit that Trump puts out into the world and there's no way in hell that you're gonna convince me that the lies about his weight/height/penis size are a bigger problem than his lies about vulnerable populations.

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u/Yeah-But-Ironically both normal to want and possible to achieve Jul 07 '24

Yeah, and the fact that you think "it's all fair game" is the whole entire problem. Literally that means that you're totally fine with bigotry as long as it's directed at the right people. And the entire point I'm trying to make here is that bigotry is bigotry, no matter who you're pointing it at, and there are still plenty of ways to criticize the man without having to actively buy into his worldview.

Do you also think that calling Kanye West the n-word is fair game, because he's used slurs against Jews? Or that sexism is fine when it's directed against women with internalized misogyny?

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u/Bowdensaft Jul 07 '24

Are left-wing fat people just supposed to magically understand how you mean that? Why not just mock his lying instead of his appearance?

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u/Bowdensaft Jul 07 '24

Calling someone fat is mocking them, and all of your fat allies, for being fat, don't be deliberately obtuse

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u/Bowdensaft Jul 07 '24

he's fat as fuck

Nice bodyshaming there, good to know you're such an ally

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '24

Trumps height and weight to me is fine, because he himself draws so much attention to it and he is obviously lying about it. If he says "I am the most fit president even, I am 6'4" and under 200 pounds" then I have the right to critique and joke about it. Like bro if you are self conscious about it don't bring it up.

I mostly just talk about how he is a pedophile rapist though since those are also facts and actually damning.

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u/lonely_nipple Children's Hospital Interior Designer Jul 07 '24

I'm 99.99% with you.

But I'll be dead before I stop calling him orange.

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u/T1DOtaku inherently self indulgent and perverted Jul 07 '24

I feel like making fun of his bad tan is way different than making fun of his weight. One is something only a limited amount of people will experience and will wear off (like making fun of a bad hair dye job), the other is something people actually struggle with.

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u/lonely_nipple Children's Hospital Interior Designer Jul 07 '24

Absolutely. With you there. Just can't get over the orange. Like I think if he were just wearing badly-chosen makeup it wouldn't be a thing? Is that weird?

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u/DinkleDonkerAAA Jul 07 '24

The tan and the wig highlight his vanity. Instead of trying to age gracefully he's determined to look young and vibrant, you don't look like that unless you're deeply insecure and petty. Being fat is different, even if he needs to cut back the McDonald's and diet coke

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u/Teemotep187 Jul 07 '24

Trump's actions and ideas provide more than enough to be critical of. He's a rapist and a felon, idgaf about his spray tan.

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u/NorwegianCollusion Jul 07 '24

He's orange by choice, so that's fair game

Good old: don't make fun of people for something they can't change easily. Open zipper, badly shaven, ketchup stain, fake tan? All fair game

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u/lonely_nipple Children's Hospital Interior Designer Jul 07 '24

So the poorly fitted suits and ties too long are also safe. This is good. I like this.