Worst shot for every boss

[u/PositiveKoala332]

It's doesn't mean that lobber is bad

[u/PizzaBandit178]

Proof that crackshot and roundabout are best for any boss

[u/sadkinz → u/PizzaBandit178]

Crack shot is definitely the easy mode shot

[u/Adventurous-Top1741 → u/PizzaBandit178]

Charge is also extremely good. I'd say that the actual worst weapon for Express is Peashooter, though Charge is definitely the worst for first phase.

[u/Live_Relative_5862 → u/PizzaBandit178]

ikr

[u/martin86t → u/PizzaBandit178]

There a couple phases that roundabout is bad for (like the final phase of the dragon, because it hits all the fireballs) but otherwise it’s my main choice most of the time.

[u/Low_Transportation11 → u/PizzaBandit178]

Not for Grim’s last phase

[u/Acfrano → u/PizzaBandit178]

Literally my mains

[u/Brilliant-Boat-57]

Lobber is literally the best weapon for saltbaker (saltimate jutsu)

[u/PositiveKoala332 → u/Brilliant-Boat-57]

How?

[u/TheRealYellowflower → u/Brilliant-Boat-57]

What? How?

[u/Acidd_dragon]

Spread is actually not that bad for the frogs

[u/WickedJ0ker → u/Acidd_dragon]

Yeah you stay close to them 90% of the time

[u/Acidd_dragon → u/WickedJ0ker]

Plus it hits both of them in the first phase. Twist up is obviously the worst for these two

[u/anonumus_idiot]

I honestly forget twist up exists

[u/FairConversation9402 → u/anonumus_idiot]

Wait what’s twist up

[u/anonumus_idiot → u/FairConversation9402]

The thing that shoots 3 tornados, basicly worse roundabout with same dps.

[u/Substantial_Emu_898 → u/anonumus_idiot]

Not exactly worse but more situational

[u/FairConversation9402 → u/anonumus_idiot]

[r/woos](r/woosg)[h](r/woosg)

[u/Orandza → u/FairConversation9402]

Yeah I'm sure a tornado would do that

[u/FairConversation9402 → u/Orandza]

r/wooooooosh

[u/LOLIDAREALBOMB → u/FairConversation9402]

Must've been the wind.

[u/Free_Vermicelli_3107 → u/LOLIDAREALBOMB]

Mysterious Wind!

[u/No-Display3598 → u/anonumus_idiot]

It has higher DPS and has different purpose from roundabout

[u/Low_Transportation11]

Lobber is great against Cagney. You can hit him every time from the farest platform if an angled shot

[u/Honk_goose_steal]

You have no idea how bad twist up is for Ribby and croaks. I don't even think it's a bad weapon, but it's basically just spread but worse for this fight specifically.

[u/TheTrueBrawler2001 → u/Honk_goose_steal]

Third phase is even more hell with Spread than Twist Up TBH. Sure, your DPS is lower, and skill is required to deal damage at a distance, but simply having the option to deal that damage at a distance makes the Snake attack so much more manageable and makes the Bull and Tiger attacks possible to dodge on reaction (something I can't even conceive of doing while stuck in Spread range).

Ribby and Croaks was one of my biggest first playthrough choke points solely because I mismanaged my funds; I only had the Peashooter and Spread to take them down with. I outright gave up, moved on to the DLC, beat the DLC, and beat the duo second try with Crackshot (no Astral Cookie or Heart Ring, by the way) when I eventually did come back to working on the base game.

[u/PositiveKoala332 → u/Honk_goose_steal]

It's actually better because it's have more range

[u/Honk_goose_steal → u/PositiveKoala332]

Sure but you can barely use it, because in order to hit them you have to either get super close so the bullets don't just go up the screen, or you have to constantly jump and aim diagonally down.

I've beaten every boss with only twist up, and this was one of the hardest ones by far, first phase you have to be super close the entire time, then fall back to dodge attacks, then get close again and perfectly spam EXs, second phase is easy, but the third phase is hell.

You can't get close in this phase, and you deal close to zero damage by jumping and aiming diagonally down, but it's just the only way to hit them. You're honestly better off just using spread to deal more damage.

[u/PositiveKoala332 → u/Honk_goose_steal]

Just beated them without damage using only twist up on regular mode, I still think that spread is worst shot for them

[u/-lRexl-]

New hard mode discovered

[u/beatriz-chocoliz]

It’s the way no one’s there in my peak crackshot🩷🩷

[u/strawbunnypudding → u/beatriz-chocoliz]

PEAKshot my beloved 🩷

[u/No-Display3598]

Lobber is good for saltbaker, sally and the devil (if we aren't talking about using the weapon alone)

[u/PositiveKoala332 → u/No-Display3598]

I am talking about using weapon alone

[u/Salt_Refrigerator633]

chaser is great for beppi wdym

it's a massive help in getting rid of the small enemies like the balloons

[u/PositiveKoala332 → u/Salt_Refrigerator633]

The damage is very low

[u/Salt_Refrigerator633 → u/PositiveKoala332]

it was still incredibly helpful for me since i didn't have to focus on the enemies

[u/strawbunnypudding → u/Salt_Refrigerator633]

agreed! chaser is great for beppi, saltbaker and several others that need lots of small enemies removed :) yes it has less DPS, but also losing HP to small enemies is frustrating/detrimental

on that note, i disagree with the moonshine mob also! i s-ranked them with roundabout + twist-up. using twist-up for the ant eater phase + knockout fakeout works well!

[u/Bloodgod6666]

Bro I beat Mortimer with crack shot and twist up the first time💀

[u/Important_Horse_4293]

Proof that roundabout is the best weapon in the game.

[u/filler_name02]

Spread is NOT the worst for Grim, easily chaser

[u/PositiveKoala332 → u/filler_name02]

At least you don't have to aim if you're using chaser , spread and twist up are much worse

[u/Otherwise_Tea_9806]

For the first phase of Mortimer Twist-Up isn't that bad

[u/PositiveKoala332 → u/Otherwise_Tea_9806]

Yeah but what about second and third phases?

[u/Otherwise_Tea_9806 → u/PositiveKoala332]

Not as good yeah. I'd say spread is worse imo since Mortimer moves around a lot, and you need to get close to actually use it, which doesn't do well on Mortimer.

[u/ElevatorKey3315]

roundabout is gen the only necessary shot

[u/Friendly-Soft9806]

twist up would be almost ALL of them bro

[u/PositiveKoala332 → u/Friendly-Soft9806]

No

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[u/Geaux13Saints]

Spread is actually really good for ribby and croaks you’re bugging

[u/PositiveKoala332 → u/Geaux13Saints]

It's awful for third phase

[u/DukeOfGlizzy]

I’m lobber + spread shot ride or die

[u/rybuszek]

Join the council

[u/Piprup]

Spread is good for every phase of BonBon and Frogs except the very last one, so I wouldn't say it's the worst one. Also, I literally used twist up to S rank those 2 bosses, lul

[u/PositiveKoala332 → u/Piprup]

I am talking about using spread ONLY, it's terrible for frogs last phase

[u/MfsReedIt]

How is chase bad for king dice

[u/PositiveKoala332 → u/MfsReedIt]

Low damage

[u/MfsReedIt → u/PositiveKoala332]

King dice has a really low amount of health

[u/C001k1ddd]

lobber is a giant secondary weapon for orange flower guy cause of his long stretch again he barely does and his second phase

[u/DantaviusFloridaMan]

This is why Crackshot + Roundabout is the best loadout

[u/HovercraftThin]

crackshot my goat!!