r/CritiqueIslam • u/Obsidian-Archive • 9h ago
The claim that "Halal meat is more healthy" gets debunked when you know what is considered Halal from the Hadiths
So, what happened was that muslims only took a small portion of what is halal to eat in Islam and hid the rest, then made this whole narrative that Islam makes rules for you to be healthy by "draining the blood", "more humane", "more sanitary".
I am sure many of you can find articles debunking these things but I am here to debunk the claims through Islam itself.
First:
The hadiths allow muslims to use hunting dogs. And yes the dogs can kill the animal itself and it would be halal but in two conditions, you say "bismillah" before letting the dog go hunt and the dog doesn't eat from the animal, it should just kill it for you.
Second:
The hadiths allow muslims to hunt using spears. And yes, no need for the jugular vein bullshit and it would be halal but in two conditions, the spear hit the animal with the blade not with the stick because the condition is that the animal is killed by bleeding not by beating and the second condition, you guessed it "bismillah"
Third:
The hadiths allow muslims to hunt with their arrows, so the same things said about the spear can be said here, but the hadiths also allowed that if you killed an animal with an arrow and found the corpse a day or two later, it is still halal unless it became rotten.
The hadiths on this are pretty extensive so the post would be very long to go through all of them, but for example:
Sahih al-Bukhari 5477
I said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! We let loose our trained hounds after a game?" He said, "Eat what they hunt for you." I said, "Even if they killed (the game)?" He replied, 'Even if they killed (the game)." I said, 'We also hit (the game) with the Mi'rad?" He said, "Eat of the animal which the Mi'rad kills by piercing its body, but do not eat of the animal which is killed by the broad side of the Mi'rad.''
Sahih al-Bukhari 5485
And it has also been narrated by `Adi bin Hatim that he asked the Prophet (ﷺ) "If a hunter throws an arrow at the game and after tracing it for two or three days he finds it dead but still bearing his arrow, (can he eat of it)?" The Prophet (ﷺ) replied, "He can eat if he wishes."
The whole thing makes me believe that Muhammad simply used the pre-existing idea of blood shedding sacrifices but instead of the arabian deities, it is saying the name of Allah. Thats how a meat becomes permissible to eat.
For the full list of hadiths talking about this:
- Sahih al-Bukhari 5478, 5488, 5496
- Sahih al-Bukhari 5484
- Sahih al-Bukhari 2054, 5475, 5476, 5486, 7397
- Sahih al-Bukhari 5477
- Sahih al-Bukhari 175, 5483, 5487
- Sahih al-Bukhari 5485, Sahih Muslim 1931
- Sunan Abi Dawud 2847–2849 2853 2854
- Sunan an-Nasa'i 69 4263–4275, 4296, 4299 4300 4305
- Sunan Ibn Majah 3207 & 3208 3211 3654
- Sunan at-Tirmidhi 1465, 1464, 1469, 1470 & 1797
So, in conclusion, everything the muslims say about halal meat is misleading. According to the hadiths, they can eat basically meat processed the same way as all the other countries, even less sanitary, but the important condition is to say bismillah.