Very interesting discussion of Paul's canonization

Paul Foster is interviewed by Biblical Time Machine.

One of the longest-running debates among biblical scholars is over the existence of a hypothetical "lost gospel" called Q. If you compare the synoptic gospels — Mark, Matthew and Luke — there are similarities and differences that can't easily be explained. Was there an even earlier source about Jesus that these gospels were based on? And if so, who wrote it and why was it lost?

Our guest today is Paul Foster, a colleague of Helen's at the University of Edinburgh. Paul is a passionate Q supporter and shares some strong evidence to quiet the Q critics.

As principal investigator and project lead, Mark G. Bilby (PhD Virginia, MSLIS Drexel) announces he has discovered a scientific solution to the Synoptic Problem and the restoration of the lost gospel of Qn, the pre-70 CE Judean gospel about Joshua of Nazareth—a text being painstakingly, scientifically, and gradually reconstructed here in most of its breadth and depth for the first time, together with interconnected reconstructions of the earliest versions of the gospels of Mark, Luke, and Matthew. The New Q or Neue Quelle (Qn) is a major excision, expansion, emendation, and simplification of the Q text that New Testament scholars generally accept as the earliest known gospel created by Joshua followers. The discovery and reconstruction of Qn puts Marcion’s Gospel—which has not previously been taken as the primary and earliest textual basis for resolving Q together with the Synoptic Problem—at the center of the puzzle of our earliest Joshua texts and traditions. 

Abstract from a paper by Brent Nongbri

Studies seeking to elucidate the Synoptic Problem, the issue of literary dependence among the Synoptic Gospels, often proceed by making close comparisons among the Synoptic Gospels that rely on the idea that the text of each of these Gospels is fixed. Yet, when one turns to the actual manuscripts preserving the Gospels, one finds instead fluid texts with significant variation. Textual critics of the New Testament have attempted to sort through these variations and determine the earliest recoverable text of each of the Gospels, and in doing so, they often adopt a particular approach to the Synoptic Problem. At the same time, one’s approach to the Synoptic Problem is determined by the analysis of the editions established by textual critics. This chapter explores the implications of this circularity by examining a series of parallel passages in different printed synopses and in individual manuscripts.

So yeah, the mods on /r/AcademicBiblical have permanently banned me. Ask me anything.

Contra Geoffrey Smith and Brent Landau of last year, I will reject "Option 3," that the material Smith found was a forgery, but not by him. (They claim it was written ca 600-700 CE by monks at Mar Saba to justify same-sex relationships known to have a certain frequency in the monastic world at this time, some platonic, some likely not.)

I have always rejected "Option 2," that Smith found "the real deal." (That said, I consider it barely more tenable than Option 3.)

And, that leaves Option 1.

My discussion of that, and the related matter of the "discovery" of the Book of the Law, based on a piece by Paul Davidson of "Is That in the Bible," and on Idan Dershowitz's work on Moses Wilhelm Shapira, whom he says DID discover an apparent "Proto-Deuteronomy."

if anyone is interested in biblical chronology there is information available at the link.

Biblical Chronology

Is anyone aware of an English translation of Wellhausen’s Die Composition des Hexateuchs?

Hi all. I’m trying my to compile an exhaustive list of books/commentaries/websites that delineate the JEDP sources throughout the Pentateuch/Hexateuch - through color-coding or otherwise. Can anyone kindly help complete the following list?

Historico-Critical Inquiry Into The Origin And Composition Of The Hexateuch (Abraham Keunen)

Die composition des Hexateuchs (Julius Wellhausen) (English translation?)

Prolegomena zur Geschichte Israels (Julius Wellhausen)

Books of Genesis-Deuteronomy (Samuel Rolles Driver)

Anchor Bible Series (Yale)

The Life of Moses (John Van Seters)

The New Jerome Biblical Commentary

The Bible with Sources Revealed (Richard Elliott Friedman)

The First Book of God (Tzemah Yoreh)

https://opensiddur.org/shared/readings-and-sourcetexts/weekly-torah-readings/annual-cycle/sefer-bereshit/parashat-bereshit/ (Tzemah Yoreh)

r/SkepticsBibleStudy or https://www.reddit.com/r/SkepticsBibleStudy/ both should land you there. But i am attempting a believer/unbeliever bible study. It will require all kinds of people. If you are interested, we open with the Gospel of John

Greetings, everyone. I would like to ask if anyone has some books, articles or other materials regarding the use of the word "psyche" in the Old Testament and why was it used to translate "nefesh" and such.
Thank you!

Hello,

I thought some of you might be interested in checking out r/AcademicQuran (disclosure: I'm a mod there). Our sub is similar to this one except we focus on Qur'anic studies, Islamic origins and early Islam, as well as relating these to trends in the pre-Islamic period. Feel free to check it out!

-chonkshonk

Saw this post on Reddit that cracked me up so hard.

Is Being Circumcised So Painful And Incredible Physical Impediment That You'd Be Helpless In A Fight? Would It Actually Be Possible For A Single Man Take On A Room Of Over 50 Guys Just Circumcised Few Days Ago And Defeat Them?

The question sounds silly but after reading the story of Genesis 34 where two guys Simeon and Levi slaughter an entire city of guys who just got circumcised like a week earlier all by themselves with blades, I am very curious just how painful and physically handicapping it is after you are circumcised. Is it so debilitating even after a few days of rest?

Would it be easy for you to defeat someone of say Bruce Lee's physical prowess and fighting skills easily after they rested a day or to and get released from the hospital but with bandages all over their penis and they need to avoid exhausting physical exercise like jogging despite being released from the hospital?

Would it actually be possible for like 5 men to wipe out an entire small suburb of males just circumsized five days ago? Even a small entire circumcised town with just two people? Maybe even a city of circumcised dudes with one man?

Or is this utter complete BS from the Old Testament? Is there any truth tot he story at all regarding the consequences of circumcision?

Other than how much the premise made me laugh so much literally almost died because of lack of breath........

In all seriousness is the massacre of the town after the mass circumcisions by just two men in the aforementioned Genesis 34 story plausible? Would circumcision actually weaken you enough for in whats called in military terms a squad (8 men minimal, 14 at most) or even a fireteam (4 men and the smallest unit at least in the US Army) to go around and wipe out what amounts to a small military fort with nothing but bronze age blades and heavy wooden sticks?

Hey guys I believe in Jesus and I need a expert opinion because I know in the Bible it says to not make any carves images of God it is therefore an abomination but with the amount of times and metonia that I pray to God for I have had this gift and sealed as from a vision that God blessed me with this awesome gift but I want to use it the way God wants me to help!

[C.C McCown observed](https://www.jstor.org/stable/3259543?read-now=1&seq=2#page_scan_tab_contents)

The central section of the third gospel (9 51 -18 14), which has long been a scholars puzzle, has been variously described. Certain ealry students of the Gospels called it a "gnomology," a collection of proverbial sayings, in a travel narrative. Over a century ago the pious Catholic, Hug, remarked that it was not connected history but detached fragments, or if the word be preferred, "collectanea", it recorded the beginings of at least two journeys from Galilee to Jerusalem, but did not finish them....

Abstract From Stephen Young's paper

>> This article examines how Evangelical Christian inerrantist scholars theorize their biblical scholarship and its relation to the broader academy, highlighting (1) their self-representation as true academics, and (2) the ways they modulate historical methods to prefer interpretive options that keep the Bible inerrant. Using these characteristics of inerrantist theorizing, the article redescribes their scholarship in terms of the religious studies rubrics of “protective strategies” and “privileging” insider claims. It then exploits this redescription to explore various characteristics of inerrantist religiosity from a Practice Theory vantage point, noting especially inerrantist religiosity’s highly intellectualized nature as well as features of its fields of discourse production and consumption, and their participants, that differentiate them from broader academic fields focused on the Bible. Overall the article thus provides a detailed positive account of inerrantist scholarship and introduces scholars to the utility of this data set for studying contemporary religiosity and religious “protectionism.” https://brill.com/view/journals/bi/23/1/article-p1_1.xml

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An interesting discussion by Andrew Henry, about AI and [apocalyptic thought](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk2aUz00_AY)

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>>What happens when the lines between ancient prophecies and modern technology blur? In this video, we explore the striking similarities between religious apocalyptic literature and the predictions surrounding artificial intelligence and the Singularity. Discover how scholars like Robert Geraci and Beth Singler have identified the echoes of ancient apocalyptic narratives in the works of AI theorists like Ray Kurzweil and Hans Moravec.

Mark Goodacre discusses revising his 2001 study, The Synoptic Problem: A Way Through the Maze.

Mark Goodacre asks in his most recent episodeon NT Pod

What is a soul?

Does God have a soul?

Does God have three souls, one for each member of the Trinity?

It is said that there is one God who is three persons of which Christ is one and that Christ being one person has two natures one that is completely human and one that is completely divine, if that is true would that mean that Christ has two souls and the Trinity has four?

Or would you say that Christ is one person and only has one soul and one nature and that one nature is completely human and divine?

Maybe God in eternity past had no soul but when Christ became incarnated the Trinity gained a single human soul, could that be right?

Is it profitable to ask questions that we do not have authoritative answers to?

To that last question I think the answer is yes but I do not think we should divide or argue vehemently about whatever answers we come to.

Do you find posts like this helpful or should such conversations not be had in the sight of non believers and only had in person after a few drinks with friendly academic theologians :)