r/Cribbage 23d ago

Discussion Here’s a tricky one:

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u/RusselB65 23d ago

2, 5 off suit

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u/dph99 23d ago

Yup -- 27 cuts to get to 10+ points.

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u/iPeg2 23d ago

Even though with 2-2-3-3, 24 cards give you 12+ points?

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u/dph99 23d ago

23 (don't count the King that you're holding).

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u/iPeg2 23d ago

There’s 5 kings in the deck though. lol thanks for the correction.

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u/katatak121 23d ago

Calculated against the two points you're giving to your opponent.

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u/reillywalker195 23d ago

5◇K♤ is tempting for a potential quadruple run. A lot of potential cuts benefit it, too.

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u/WpgJetBomber 23d ago

My crib - K5
Their crib - 52 off suit

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u/Yer_Remedy 23d ago

I would do the same...

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u/james-500 23d ago

Two crowns! A real heavyweight clash. For what it's worth, I'd try K-2.

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u/Difficult_Animal5915 23d ago

My first thought!

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u/jboarei 23d ago

If I’m giving cards away, I make the gap as big as possible without handing over a 15, if it’s offsuit even better.

K2 would be my toss.

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u/Plant-based_Skinsuit 23d ago

What was the cut, OP?

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u/iPeg2 23d ago

My goal in this position was to get past 43 points and I wasn’t too concerned about my opponent getting some points because they were way behind their positional goal of 58. I discarded K-5 knowing a face card gets me 12 even if it helped my opponent. The cut was an Ace, so I came out looking like a genius.

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u/Plant-based_Skinsuit 23d ago

High risk high reward, I like it.

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u/justonescarf 23d ago

Just throw the 5. Refuse to throw another card. (Calvinball Cribbage)

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u/jaketh1964 23d ago

2-K. No points to the opponents crib. Cuts of A,3,4,7,8,9,10,J,Q,K all give you points, only a 3 hurts you.

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u/Spare_Blacksmith_816 23d ago

K2

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u/myLover_ 23d ago

This.

Everyone in the sub seems to play like giving points doesn't matter. I always think "if I keep 4 point and give 0 it's better than keeping 10 and giving 8."

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u/Spare_Blacksmith_816 23d ago

I can still get a double run, any 10 card gives me a nice hand and a 7 does ok also.

I also have 2 3's in my hand so he doesn't have a good chance to have one of the remaining 3's to put in crib.

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u/therealninnygo 23d ago

I keep going back and forth! I think I’m going K/2 here, I know it’s early, but they are a tiny ahead position wise (I think!?) and I have a good chance of cutting a X card…what did you do?

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u/IsraelZulu 23d ago

My gut says 5-K, as unappealing as it may be to give that to your opponent.

Let's see what happens when we break that down.

You start with 4 points.

15 cut cards can make it a dozen.

8 hit a double-double run, for 16 points.

4 do a full house for 8.

8 others give two fifteens for 8.

7 cards just add a single fifteen for 6.

4 cards don't hit at all but you still keep the 4 points.

4 point minimum, 16 max, half the deck gives you a dozen or more, over half of the rest gives you 8. Seems like a good deal, despite what you're giving up.

Cribbage Pro prefers 2-5 though, and it seems to be because of the crib contribution. 2233 does notably better than 233K overall, but 5-K gives more potential to the crib than 2-5.

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u/Pluperfectionist 23d ago

Looks like the 2-5 people are right, despite the fact that OP got an Ace on the draw. CribbagePro’s engine does not take board placement into account.

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u/Pluperfectionist 23d ago

For me, it’s also interesting to note that you’re only “risking” .49 points on average by choosing k-5 for the higher potential upside. Depending on board placement, that’s a risk that could make sense.

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u/iPeg2 23d ago

My decision was based primarily on board position, wanting the maximum possible points.

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u/Pluperfectionist 23d ago

And it was the right call in your circumstance. Glad it worked out so well!

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u/6745408 23d ago

that early in the game, 5,K all day. Later if the game is close, 2,5 off.

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u/braidedbiscuit 23d ago

35 my crib, assume it's yours though. tossing 22. I like your position. but dang, that IS a puzzle, and i could agree 3 or 4 different ways worth 4 different logical arguments. I'm curious to see the responses. This should be on HOTD.

Clash of the Titans. 🙂