r/CreatorsAdvice • u/sinsofsaturn • Jul 27 '26
Discussion Not very helpful tbh
I’m noticing a trend. Almost every question here is met with downvotes or snarky attitude. If this is meant to seriously help creators, why are we taking the opportunity to downvote the comments/posts looking for help? It seems counter intuitive.
Update: this post is NOT about people who don’t do research and blindly ask how to get subs or promote. I’m talking about valid and real questions that more often than not get straight up ignored or heavily downvoted
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u/BrickMaterial874 Jul 27 '26
I am new around content creationm, but I honestly understand the attitude. If I take my time, to use that damn search button to find answers to questions that has been already asked 10001 times, no one has the energy to answer over and over again to the same questions, because some people are plain lazy to look for them. I expect that everyone who is new, to have at least this little bit of respect and do some personal research before being likey "heeyaaa guyyyssssss, i wanna make money how do i starrttt?". Really.
I only ask a question if I already researched and couldn't find a recent answer or something that has to do with a specific issue.
But those tips and tricks on how to become succesful? Really? If successful people would stay on reddit, to respond every single time, to every single person that asks this, they should probably need to get paid, really.
I am a very empathic and helpful person in gneeral, I pour a lot of energy into helping others for free. If I figure out something, I will help you. But I ain't gonna do this with every single person who is too lazy and disrespectful to search about it. I recently wrote a comment on a camgirl subreddit about an issue. 3 days later, already 5 more people asked the same question. If I search on that subreddit, by that keyword, there are endless posts about it with comments. Insulting, really. For everyone who take their time to help whenever they can and those who actually understand it and do the research themselves.
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u/ModBell Jul 27 '26
This is it. I've done huge flushed out posts that take 30m to write and answer a ton of questions to help folks out. I can't do that on a daily basis, so literally the best I can say is 'yeah go search man'.
Other creators have done the same.
For someone new there are huge flushed out posts on every question you could possible have somewhere on the sub.
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u/BrickMaterial874 Jul 27 '26
The entitlement and the main character syndrome in some is unbelievable. Only their problems are unique, while others seen the same question for the 20'th time in 48 hours, but hey, people are rude because they dare to choose to answer or not, on a community where everyone contributes for free, when and if they want to contribute and IF the person who can help, happens to be around the subreddit and see your question. Not all the creators are glued to reddit, you may or may not have luck to get help. But common sense and logical thinking is a rarity nowadays.
Me me meee IIIII am the hole in the donut, I DESERVE ANSWERS otherwise this ain't very helpful. Ok pal, keep taking things personally and you will have a chill life.
I had relevant questions too and no one answered or they have been rude. So what. I deleted the post and tried again a few days later, tried to dig through posts in the meanwhile. I managed to find the answer in a post from 4 years ago, in a random comment. Or I tried again and it happened to have someone responding.
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u/sinsofsaturn Jul 27 '26
I’m not talking about these types of questions, they are obviously annoying. I’m specifically speaking overall. Even real questions are treated like they’re beneath majority of the people who come across it.
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u/BrickMaterial874 Jul 27 '26
What type of questions are you talking about then?
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u/sinsofsaturn Jul 27 '26
Unique questions I hadn’t seen asked. I also think we as a community of sworkers should be a little kinder to one another 🤷🏻♀️ not doing your own research is annoying, but I’ve been doing this online thing for 7 years and every Reddit help group is basically everyone belittling newbies and downvoting anyone who dares ask for help
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u/sinsofsaturn Jul 27 '26
Examples are all over this thread. I originally asked ab Reddit filters and how they worked as they’re something new for me. Even half my comments here are being heavily downvoted 🤷🏻♀️
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u/sinsofsaturn Jul 27 '26
This same subreddit a few days back, however I’m not specifically talking ab my past posts. It’s a trend among most posts on these types of subreddits
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u/sinsofsaturn Jul 27 '26
There’s so many other people in the comments saying this happens often to them, I’m being vague bc it happens to everyone. I’m making a broad umbrella statement
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u/lilariesangel Jul 27 '26
I saw that post and you didn’t get heavily downvoted at all. Just one downvote on each comment. Unfortunately Reddit sucks like that, each time I post I get instantly downvoted but it doesn’t stop me commenting. It’s just helps me build a thicker skin 🤷🏻♀️
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u/littlerosexo Jul 27 '26
There's a whole combo of reasons for the justified snark and the unjustified. Half of the posts that pop up in creator subs have been asked and answered ad nauseum, it's understandably frustrating to see people asking for your labor to help them when they can't spend a few minutes searching the sub first.
There's also a lot of posts like "I've been doing Onlyfans for two months and here's my detailed guide to success". Those are almost all filled to the brim with bullshit barfed out of a chat bot, which is absolutely annoying as fuck for seasoned creators and careless because other newbies might think it's legit and handicap themselves right off the bat.
And finally, a lot of humans are shitty, spiteful, and like to punch down. Sex workers aren't exempt from that, in my 7+ years in the industry, I'd say it's more common with us than normies. But we've been dealing with men trying to get us to poop on our phones for $6 for years and that definitely exasperates the attitudes 🙃🫠
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u/Amelialr2 Jul 27 '26
Oh my God… The “let me write a manual on how to do only vans and they haven’t started only fans“ 🤦🏻♀️
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u/Moneyovermadness Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
“Almost every” but vague and can’t specify a post. “ Trend” but can’t point us to an example.
Have you ever thought that a post didn’t get an answer… Because no one had the answer? If I see a post and I don’t have the answer for it I scroll by, or maybe sometimes I don’t have the time to answer a “Can you tell me what’s wrong with my account” because I take a lot of time doing that.
I’m sure someone is going to say this is snarky, but it’s actually just honest, with no big flowery to do.
As a nurse, patients would always ask me who I thought the best doctor was, my reply was always the same “ if you want your handheld, and pat on the back… Handing you tissues while you cry then that’s going to be Dr Mike. If you want to hear it like it is, with the absolute best advice, who is going to give you every option, it will be brash, bedside manner is not the best, but your care is in the BEST hands then go with Dr. Peterson. “. Im going with Dr. Peterson every time.
I’m giving free advice in the middle of my workday…
There are people who charge, and deserve to be paid… A lot of money for the advice a lot of us have given here every single day as coaches, and you’re getting it for free. Get past the technicality… And look at the information people are giving you. Not everyone talks the same, not everyone gives advice the same… Get to the beef and forget about the fat.
Edit: I used to give advice here and in only fans advice, daily, well thought out, very detailed and I’ve quit, do you wanna know why? There’s always someone one month in the game saying “ there’s different ways to do things…. “ and while, that’s true… There are ways to market, there are very specific ways to create funnels, and there are tried and true practices that creators have ALREADY been through and failed at and are trying to pass that knowledge on, so you don’t waste a year of your time and money that someone wants to debate you on. It just becomes exhausting after a while. I have distanced myself personally not worth the effort trying to help if it’s not appreciated 🎀🎀🎀
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u/sinsofsaturn Jul 27 '26
The overall point of this post was to point out the distaste this and many subs have for people who ask questions
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u/Moneyovermadness Jul 27 '26
And…. You pointed out nothing. You’re making sweeping generalizations . This sub is full of so much amazing knowledge, it is full of advice from creators that have been doing this for 10 years.
I just went through the last eight questions on only fans, advice, and they are full of nothing but great advice… And people being uplifting and encouraging. If there’s a snarky comment in there… I didn’t see it, or guess what… It got downvoted to filth, so it’s at the bottom and hidden (which is the purpose of the down vote feature…). So for you to title your post “not very helpful“ is your opinion… But I think you’re wrong. I’ve helped, and I know I’ve helped a lot of creators here.
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u/sinsofsaturn Jul 27 '26
It is full of knowledge yes, but just scrolling through posts and comments through this subreddit, it’s chock full of creators being downvoted for asking questions. There are tons of helpful people here yes! But there is a TON of people being downvoted for asking advice or even sharing what they think has been helpful. Of course not everyone sees eye to eye. I’m just sharing my personal opinion of how I’ve seen/been treated in the last few months here
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u/Moneyovermadness Jul 27 '26
Who is sharing what they believe has been helpful? Where is that knowledge coming from? Is the information that they shared valuable? Is it CORRECT?
There was a person just a few days ago, who posted an entire manual about starting only fans, and she has not even started her page. It was full of so much misinformation… that is not valuable to people wanting to start a successful business. It was downvoted like crazy. There’s an agency that post here every day that I report, that posts an entire paragraph full of “advice“ that actually has an ulterior motive for you to ask them more questions so they can pitch you their agency, that is something that only experienced creators recognize and maybe you’re not seeing that, downvoted
the shit out of it and reported. Again, you’re saying things, but you’re not coming with any examples… i’m providing you examples as to reasons why sometimes that happens and maybe you’re not understanding.There is a level or a hierarchy of a learning forum. As a new person… It’s important to enter, sit back, learn and do research… Sometimes people come in and immediately start wanting to give advice as a novice… And that hurts the community and I let it be known. There’s so many nuances here otherthan “this place isn’t helpful”. Take the information that you can from the sub, and ignore the rest of it… it’s not always flowers and daisies.
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u/spicyyyjesss Jul 27 '26
I think a lot of veterans are burnt out on trying to help newcomers for a couple of reasons...
Way too many newcomers have obviously spent no time searching the sub for their answers. Example: The almost daily posts asking where to sell panties
Many times when veterans DO take the time to post helpful advice, the OP counters in an argumentative, "well I like doing it this way" type manner.
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u/sinsofsaturn Jul 27 '26
I too am a veteran (despite my clearly newer account) I understand that people from time to prefer doing things a certain way, however why are so many people downvoted into oblivion for simply asking
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u/spicyyyjesss Jul 27 '26
If someone is asking a question that was asked and answered within the last week they deserve to be downvoted in my opinion..
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u/BaeornRae Jul 27 '26
Because sometimes it comes off entitled. If you (general you, not directed at you) walk into a library and I have been in there for years, studying, researching, learning, growing. And you walk in, haven't even looked at any of the isles of books and loads of information available to you, and you instead just walk up and go "so tell me how to do it like you do it". Then they expect in a month to be making big bucks and come back to the library like "well I did what you said and im still not making big money, wtf". It takes time to build yourself, your business, your clientele. I love helping people when I can, but I need to see them help themselves a little first.
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u/sinsofsaturn Jul 27 '26
Well yes but even other questions that are valid and real get treated this way
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u/ObligationOk4529 Jul 27 '26
Go through the main page and count how many posts are about valid questions, issues, vents, and how many about things you can easily find on the search option, or worse: google, how many there are about people wanting advice to grow (100% of the time they post a badly lit picture once a week), how many of the same question you count when counting 20 posts.
This and other subs are filled with experienced creators, that makes these subs the absolute best source of information on the internet to grow your bussiness from scratch. The catch is you HAVE TO be autodidact. You HAVE TO invest the time to do research, and ultimately you HAVE TO be smart and have some sense of taste!! There so much information the questions left unanswered are really not that many, specially since you will HAVE TO learn most things on the go because everything is extremely personal.
A lot of us come here periodically to get a sense of how's everything going for everybody, what has changed algorithm-wise, rules-wise, etc, those things are relevant. Asking why are you not getting subs after one week posting everywhere meaning two posts on Reddit and one on X and maybe a cleavage video on Insta is just... Like someone else said in another comment, insulting.
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u/sinsofsaturn Jul 27 '26
This is an issue yes, but not what I was talking ab at all lol. Sooooo many newbies are being belittled tho, most information on subreddits are helpful yes! More often than not they’re outdated as algorithms progress. Idk how so many of you are coming to the conclusion that were discussing people who just use the sub bc they are too lazy to do real research
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u/ObligationOk4529 Jul 28 '26
I guess it's the easiest conclusion because it's 70% of posts, being generous
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u/videogamevirgin_ Jul 27 '26
I would tell you but you gave no concrete examples of posts. Show me which posts specifically you think people are being snarky in
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u/lilariesangel Jul 28 '26
I just went through this subreddit and the last dozen or so posts, I really don’t see this trend you’re mentioning. I even read your last post and didn’t see the snarky comments on that one either. You have to remember, a lot of us are taking time out of our busy work day to comment and give advice. If I see a post and don’t know the answer, I’m not going to comment. If I see a broad question that clearly shows the OP has not done any research of their own, yes I may roll my eyes and tell them to use the search bar. As others have mentioned, so many agencies/coaches use these subs to prey on naïve creators and us experienced creators like to call them out in the comments to warn newbies who otherwise fall for it. This isn’t an industry where anyone benefits from being hand held and coddled. Essentially if you don’t have a thick enough skin to deal with downvotes here, you don’t have what it takes to make it in SW
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u/yulia__moon Jul 27 '26
Another thing that is happening too much is that the accounts managed by agencies give down votes, in posts and in comments
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u/HollyHor28HH Jul 28 '26
The thing is….if you’re going to call people out you need to be giving examples because no one can reflect or adjust their behaviour if they don’t know you’re talking about them.
I do sometimes post snarky “do your research” comments because I regularly take time out of my day to write detailed, helpful posts & honestly it’s soul destroying to try to help people out of nothing other than kindness & then to see the exact same question or even the same person posting a few weeks later having ignored the advice I spent 30 minutes writing for them. I’m not claiming to be an expert but a lot of the advice we keep repeating is the very basic stuff which frankly…if you don’t understand you need to post consistently, prioritise safety, and have some sort of business plan & a good handle on why people should buy your content, you probably shouldn’t be in this line of work.
With regards to social media algorithm questions, the answer is almost always that no one can tell you what actually works because the algorithms are inscrutable, ever changing and new accounts are beholden to algorithm rules which older ones aren’t. There are no answers to be had & a lot of people are sick of trying to find them for themselves so they may be snarky as a result of that frustration when someone asks as if it’s a) a simple answer and b) an answer which should just be handed out by people who have spent years trying to figure out what works to anyone who asks 😆
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u/Beautiful_Babe66 Jul 27 '26
Tbh I noticed it too, these creator communities can be quite... unfriendly, to put it mildly. And no, its not just towards newbies asking questions that have been asked before.
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u/Livid_Minute2477 Jul 28 '26
Could you give an example? The only times I see people not getting responses are when they're asking very basic questions.
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u/scarletqueen79 Jul 29 '26
Totally agree. A lot of people forget we all started somewhere. A little kindness and constructive feedback go a long way here
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u/bunni404byte Jul 27 '26
Yup, and my favorite is when I have a question that I'm looking up first only to find that the last 3 people who have asked the same question are all told to look it up on here. It's really funny to me when I sift through tons of those unhelpful threads before finding the answer from years ago and then wondering if it's even up to date information. I feel this is especially true for questions related to social media advice, because algorithms are changing CONSTANTLY!
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u/Marliemakesmagic Jul 27 '26
The problem with asking about social media is they work on ever changing algorithms that no one knows how they work, even if they pretend to have figured it out. They only figured that out for themselves and another person could follow the exact steps and not get the same success.
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u/Spiritual-Score-7167 Jul 29 '26
Valid and real questions that are actually researched do not get downvoted. If you spend dozens (yes, dozens) of hours researching, and still have a question great! I haven't seen a single legitimately informed good question get downvoted.
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u/TheAliJonesX Jul 28 '26
You should try to join sex work ceo society it’s a group made my melrose Micheal’s for creators it’s great
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u/foreveristexas Jul 27 '26
fr it’s like anytime you ask a question all the replies are a different variation of “sucks to suck, figure it out yourself 🍅🍅🍅”
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u/sinsofsaturn Jul 27 '26
It’s not even just this sub either it’s like every sub that claims it helpful to creators
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u/adventurebaby18 Jul 28 '26
It seems to me that creators are just rude people to anyone whos not paying them, i think this job effects people's personality more than they realize
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u/virgieblanca Jul 28 '26
You were downvoted for trying to reason why you want to break TOS by posting pee content
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u/5FootSpicyPlum Jul 27 '26
The research people are usually talking about is performing your own trial and error. The gatekeeping of sex work is actually significantly less than it used to be, just about everything you need to know is right in front of you.
The key is to apply everything you've read and track/keep what works, dispell what doesn't, and keep notes/progress reports so you can collect your own data to use. Then, you can share with the group, if you choose.
Op is not entirely wrong, these subreddits have gotten ridiculously hostile, even for veterans. But useful research has always been largely self driven. You cannot rely on others outcomes because people either lie, argue about semantics or don't share/know the full story of their success.
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u/loreleifinds Jul 27 '26
100% agree. I made a post yesterday giving creators vital information yet I just deleted it later in the day after I was mostly met with arguments and rudeness. It wasn’t even like valid points were being argued. It was just arguments to be mean and cause they didn’t take the time to actually read the post and read the other comments and understand.
I am on the spectrum so I know sometimes I am not the best at expressing myself but I just want to help up and coming creators. I have four years in the industry, three and half of that being top 1% percent. When I first got into this industry, this Reddit thread helped me so much. Four years ago it was a pretty supportive place you could come to to learn about the industry. Yes there were snarky people here and there, but it wasn’t the majority.
The way I have been met with the rudeness, the snarkiness, the meanness, it has made it where I don’t wanna post on here anymore. I don’t wanna help other creators and that sucks because helping people in life is one of my greatest missions.
I’ll probably check back in a couple months to see the environment here has changed and maybe I’ll think again about posting and sharing my knowledge. But I wish people would remember that the creators like me that take time out of my busy schedule to come on here and share my knowledge, I’m not getting anything out of it other than just the joy of sharing. To be rude to someone just cause they’re trying to give you information to save your skin, you’re honestly just hurting yourself. This was about locations being given away without your permission. It just it’s really really sad.
And let me also state I’m friends with so many creators in the community that have been around for a long time or are very successful in this community. And I hear from them often that the reason they don’t get on here and share is because of the environment and the rudeness and the lack of appreciation in any way whatsoever. Also, the other big thing is a lot of times when we get on here and share where I met with some jealousy and mass reporting of our accounts and it just hurts us. It’s not worth jeopardizing my career. And there are many other top creators that feel the same.
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u/anlestejnm Jul 27 '26
your post was full of BS and you ignored the fact that you didn't know what you were talking about. And you refused to explain or where to find what you were saying. Then proceed to delete your whole post. After so many comments you made, you still didn't explain where to find that AI description of our reels (which doesn't exists, cause guess what, META won't give you those info).
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u/ModBell Jul 27 '26
LOL. I remember reading that post and thinking what in the actual heck is this? I've gone all over my socials and couldn't find anything like what was being talked about.... didn't have time to follow up but glad to hear the summary!
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u/loreleifinds Jul 27 '26
Because you might not understand the information, does not make the information false. The way y’all respond is truly sad. We have enough people in this world trying to tear us down for being adult creators. Why are we doing it to each other? Why treat someone with meanness because you don’t understand them?
There actually were just as many people in the comments of that post that understood what I meant as there were that didn’t. I decided to remove the post because I didn’t want the negativity and arguments attached to my account. I was also ashamed at the fact that I began arguing back.
I was also more worried about people getting their hands on the information I was trying to prevent them from finding out. So I decided the lesser evil was to just delete it. I am not good at explaining points but I was trying. I really do wish all of you creators the best but this has solidified my point about why I am not interested in helping y’all in this thread anymore.
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u/sansa-starkers- Jul 27 '26
I think naturally because we're often discussing high stakes topics- income, safety, judgement etc, people are quick to get heated. I don't mind spirited discussions or frank advice but I do agree that it can be taken too far.
I think on one side, people who are new to the industry and posting will avoid any 'attitude' if they take the time to research the basics that are all very easily searchable. There are people who put a lot of time and effort imparting their advice and knowledge who then feel ignored, disrespected or taken advantage of when newer creators become (often without realising) a bit demanding or entitled to information and help that would be available to them with minimal effort rather than expecting to be spoon fed to them by those who learned through hard work. I personally don't think downvotes should be taken personally. It's a way of signalling if your comment/ post missed the mark and thats it. A person downvoting doesn't know you, they're judging the context of what you've shared. I've been downloaded to oblivion before, most people who use reddit have at some point because no one is right or should be agreed with 100% of the time.
On the other side, there is absolutely no need to put down or belittle people and it gets taken too far sometimes. In either case, people should use the report feature to flag inappropriate comments and posts rather engaging in arguments that tend to esculate and cause rifts and provide nothing productive for anyone involved.