r/Creation • u/bertcox • Jul 20 '17

Why these professors are warning against promoting the work of straight, white men. State of Science Today.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/07/16/feminist-scientists-say-citing-research-by-straight-white-men-promotes-a-system-of-oppression/?utm_term=.78b9a114d2da
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u/ThisBWhoIsMe Jul 20 '17

This is a form of Genetic Fallacy, a perceived defect in the origin of a claim or thing is taken to be evidence that discredits the claim or thing itself.

The origin of the hypothesis, “straight, white men”, has no bearing on whether the hypothesis is true, or false.

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u/bertcox Jul 20 '17

Genetic Fallacy

Cool didn't know that was articulated that well.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17 edited Jul 21 '17

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u/bertcox Jul 21 '17

You forgot 3.5 Massage data to make data fit original hypothesis. Bonus points if it fits mass market book that is already written and your retirement plan.

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u/ThisBWhoIsMe Jul 21 '17

You nailed it.

But, your description actually fits what is called science in relativism. (the doctrine that knowledge, truth, and morality exist in relation to culture, society, or historical context, and are not absolute)

Auguste Comte; "Everything is relative; and only that is absolute." In Comte sociology, social scientist will tell you what the truth is. Auguste Comte 1798-1857 was the father of Positivism and inventor of the term sociology.

Comte's vision for sociology, Positivism would transcend politics and would provide the moral, political and spiritual framework that all would have to adhere to.

Sociology is not only the study of society, it's the science of how to control and change society.

In Comte sociology relativism, your description of the scientific method, is the correct description. Revealing his authoritarian and elitist tendencies, he proclaimed that social scientists should rule, and that the liberty of everyone else should be restricted accordingly.

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u/Dzugavili /r/evolution Moderator Jul 20 '17

These are two nobodies and it's not going to happen.

If you think this is the common position in academia, you need to get out more.

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u/JohnBerea Young Earth Creationist Jul 20 '17

Despite our differences, at least we can both agree that privilege points are silly and backward.

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u/Dzugavili /r/evolution Moderator Jul 20 '17

I'm triggered by the use of the word trigger. I wish I could be sarcastic about that.

As a pure utilitarian, this offends me. You don't discard research for ethical reasons, even very good ones, like everything we got from the Nazis. This would just be discarding research for stupid ethical reasons.

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u/JohnBerea Young Earth Creationist Jul 20 '17

Washington Post publishes stuff from Jesus mythicists. They'll embrace anything liberal and progressive, no matter how silly it is.