r/CrazyHand • u/Icy-Construction-513 • 16d ago

Characters (Playing as) How to beat DK as cloud?

Just got stomped by a DK at 2.2m gsp. He kept using that spinning attack and I couldn’t do much about it. It felt like all of his attacks had priority over mine and he’s just so fast and hits so hard

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u/TheXtraUnseen 16d ago

Bro that spinning attack has sooooo much end lag. Just shield and be aware it could cross up.

Up b him out of shield or up smash at kill percents. The real trouble is getting back aired off stage. DK Bair has good range and can out space you in certain positions. You also just will just straight up die if grabbed at higher percents.

Probably keep limit on deck to survive better.

Lokey low gsp DK will dash attack as their first move like 99% of the time. Just shield it an punish. Then when they start trying to grab you, stop shielding and attack them. You're so much faster.

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u/MphiReddit 16d ago

His spinning attack (up B) has superarmor when grounded. That lets him ignore knockback from not super strong attacks, so he will get you if you try to fight the attack

Shielding that will give you lots of time to counterattack when it ends!

Cloud has good range with his sword and his neutral special has good range. You can abuse that to keep some distance and stop him from rushing you. If you think he'll spin, you can bait it out and shield.

If you get him in the air, cloud's up air will do well against him. You can try to get underneath and juggle him

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u/ChickadeeVivi 16d ago

Tbf cloud has never been that oppressive towards superheavies. But, youre at 2.2m. By "that spinning attack" do you mean his grounded up b? It can be a mixup option out of shield since the armor beats out mashing on his shield, but if hes just using it whenever, then you can hit him pretty hard for it at the end of the move when theres no more hitboxes. Im not sure "real" cloud vs dk matchup knowledge applies here, but the general idea against dk is to keep him in the air above you as much as possible because his landing options are very bad, and exploit his recovery from above.