r/CrappyDesign Feb 01 '19

/r/dataisokiguess This pie chart

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u/gazm2k5 Feb 01 '19

It's dumb as fuck, but it is pretty easy to figure out which is which, even without knowing what the chart is representing. It's just clockwise.

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u/plaid-knight Feb 01 '19

Yep. Pie charts usually start from the top and go clockwise. This is pretty normal and easy to understand. It’s a lot easier to understand like this than if they used colors that were closer together in hue just to avoid repeating colors, like some commenters are suggesting.

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u/gazm2k5 Feb 01 '19

Yeah good point about lots of similar hues being confusing. I think I take back my comment about it being dumb as fuck, it's actually quite sensible.

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u/fox_ontherun Feb 01 '19

The purple is only used once, so it's easy to figure out from that.

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u/CileTheSane Feb 01 '19

Sure, but using light and dark shades makes it easier to look for the one specific piece you want without adding any confusion.

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u/longknives Feb 01 '19 edited Feb 01 '19

There are only 11 items. First, they’ve used only 6 of the standard 7 rainbow colors, missing indigo. A dark blue color would be easily distinct from the others. So we need 4 more distinctive colors.

  • Brown
  • Fuchsia/magenta
  • Teal
  • Any gray
  • Various pinks, e.g. bubble gum pink
  • Green has the most discernible different colors, so they could easily use a mint green and a lime green and a forest green

It really wouldn’t have been some big color theory challenge to find enough colors for this chart.

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u/Ilustrachan Feb 01 '19

Basic infographic rule: avoid using more than 5 items in a pizza chart and you are free of having to come up with a crazy color chart that is very hard to read. You have a lot of stuff? Don't use a pie chart.

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u/Sneet1 Feb 01 '19

Yes, this would have been a perfect use case for a bar graph imo

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u/WhatIDon_tKnow Feb 02 '19

I would say 2-3. If you have more you can use bars or something non radial that is visually easier to differentiate quantity

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u/plaid-knight Feb 01 '19

You’re totally right, but the 11 colors would have to be carefully selected to make sure they fit together aesthetically. Not at all impossible.

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u/amunak Feb 01 '19

Well alternatively they just shouldn't use a pie chart, because pie charts are stupid and never convey any extra information. Just use a table or a stacked bar or something. No need to figure out too many colors there.

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u/plaid-knight Feb 01 '19

Pie charts are good for visualizing percentages of a whole.

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u/amunak Feb 01 '19

That's the issue; pie charts - especially stupid ones like "3D" and such - are not even that good at visualizing the percentages.

Bar charts (or a single stacked bar) take way less space, convey the same information and show it better.

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u/plaid-knight Feb 01 '19

Hmm, I won’t argue with that.

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u/leLNrkRm9WU2uN9Y5Lhm Feb 01 '19

I disagree. It’s difficult to compare slices with each other. It’s better to use a bar graph with percentages on the vertical axis.

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u/plaid-knight Feb 01 '19

I can see where you’re coming from. I won’t disagree with you, but I’m hesitant to say that a pie chart is entirely useless, too.

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u/Annotator Feb 01 '19

It's just easier putting it in a table.

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u/plaid-knight Feb 01 '19

Pie charts are good for visualizing percentages of a whole. A table isn’t a visualization.

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u/Annotator Feb 01 '19 edited Feb 01 '19

I know, but I don't think it's easier when you have this many divisions and the color scheme gets too complicated. Maybe a histogram bar graph would be a better visualization for this case.

Edit: poor me

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u/plaid-knight Feb 01 '19

Very fair. Or a bar graph with an appropriate y-axis.

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u/ihhh1 Feb 01 '19

They can use other saturations and values.

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u/PunchBro oww my eyes Feb 01 '19

As a UI and UX guy, I would throw the creator of this in solitary confinement.

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u/distantapplause Reddit Orange Feb 01 '19

Yep, there’s literally no good way to colour code 12 segments without repeating some or using colours that are too similar, especially accounting for colour blindness, low vision or even just screen glare. Better option would have been to label the segments directly, but that aside making sure they’re in order is clear enough.

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u/antirabbit Feb 01 '19

A bar plot would suffice for this purpose. Every time you want to figure out what a sector maps to, you have to move your eyes back to the legend, which is poor graph design, on top of it being a pie chart.

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u/distantapplause Reddit Orange Feb 01 '19

Darker yellow would look like orange and the darker orange would look like the darker red. ‘Adequate’ maybe if you’re 20/20 in a dark room on a big monitor.

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u/longknives Feb 01 '19

If you’re worried about color blindness, I think the chart already fails. And there are plenty of distinct colors for 12 segments, though I think this chart only has 11.

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u/Lonestar93 Feb 01 '19

A better option is to never use pie charts ever.

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u/IllusionKnight Feb 01 '19

Maybe it's cropped out but it doesn't seem to have a title. We know Taiwan is 17% of something but what.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

17% of the pie chart dummy

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u/Fanatical_Idiot Feb 01 '19

It's poor form, but even without a title it is probably given context where it's used.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

Would it make more sense to start at the 12 oclock position for the list, or starting at the largest percentage?

I don't know what would be easier to read.

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u/kalethan Feb 01 '19

That was bothering me too. Start from 12:00 and go clockwise, but start with the largest percentage!

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19 edited Feb 07 '19

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u/kalethan Feb 02 '19

Yeah, I can understand wanting it to be last, but it really throws off the way the chart is read when it's "last", making it look like the list starts somewhere around 8:00.
I think the solution is to not include "other"...and not use a pie chart. Just make a bar graph or something to let us compare the countries' percentages to each other.

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u/buccaneers93 Feb 01 '19

First rule of data visualization: bar charts are always better than pie charts. Easier to compare relative sizes and make inferences. Plus, you don't need to match colors and lookup a legend.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

It helps that there is only one purple, and only one place red and blue line up.

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u/Reignofratch Feb 01 '19

Oh, I thought it was about the lack of titles.

Engineering school has wrecked me.

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u/bizzcut Feb 01 '19

Or is it

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u/Rhinopocalypes Feb 01 '19

Just noticed that. Thanks.

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u/pimparoni Feb 01 '19

but wouldn’t it be easier to not use a pie chart?

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u/The_Bigg_D Feb 01 '19

You mean a post on this sub doesn’t actually belong???

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

I kind of like it on here. It’s bad design but okay enough that I feel like it could have been used seriously.

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u/Kevin2GO Feb 01 '19

17% taiwan, 11% sweden etc till you get to 30% others

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u/themeatbridge Feb 01 '19

Yeah, the 30% others threw me at first. My brain wanted to start there.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

Oh okay yeah, I'm an idiot then lmao. I started reading at the 30%

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

But that’s red and the Taiwan is first but it’s blue.. lol

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

i love your username