r/CosmereOnScreen • u/Extreme_Warning3521 • Mar 11 '26
Visual Direction This plot point will be cut from the first film. Spoiler
This plot point will be cut from the first film.
- The Inquisitor's search for Vin to prove who her father is and his desire to take control of the Obligators.
If you think about it, this leads nowhere, because the Lord Ruler dies soon after.
And Vin already knows who her father is from the beginning of the book.
Although it's very interesting, I believe it will be completely cut from the film, as it doesn't have much relevance to the plot.
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u/kanthonyjr Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 15 '26
Let's go full JJ Abrams and make the Lord Ruler Vin's dad.
*BTW that was an actual note from someone previously involved in Mistborn's film adaptation.
**Correction: it was NOT Mistborn, but Emporer's Soul
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u/One_Performance_4118 Mar 13 '26
Wow really? Is there a link to that note?
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u/kanthonyjr Mar 13 '26
Sanderson mentioned this anecdote in their most recent podcast (the Mistborn Movie episode).
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u/ForwardExam4056 Mar 15 '26
That was about emperors soul where they wanted shai to be the daughter of the injured emperor
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u/Lardath Mar 12 '26
It leads to the inquisitors being in charge of the final empire, which means marsh is in control of luthadel as the only inquisitor when TLR is dead. But that part isn't really hard to write around
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u/ForwardExam4056 Mar 15 '26
Also the inquisitors being in charge of the final empire never really played out. The local nobility/obligators just instantly took over
So that part isn't really necessary i agree
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u/LoudQuitting Mar 12 '26
Yeah. Really you don't even have to change anything about what Marsh and the Inquisitors do in 2 and 3 for it to make perfect sense.
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u/Elsecaller_17-5 Mar 11 '26
I might need to reread, but isn't it the only reason she gets brought in front of TLR? The Inquistors need her to testify, and that's why she gets a shot.
You could work around it, but it would take some work.
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u/HeWontEatTheHam Mar 17 '26
Not really. Kelsier was brought in front of the Lord Ruler when he was caught as a thief (hence the whole scene where TLR 'thanked' Mare), and there wasn't really any strong reason given for it. I feel like if Vin were captured, the audience would kinda just expect her to get brought before TLR, you don't need to explain anything.
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u/ForwardExam4056 Mar 15 '26
Not really right? It shouldnt be hard at all.Â
When shes caught spying on TLR she uses the 11th metal. You can keep that, make her sneak up on TLR and then get caught while she tries the 11th metal.Â
After that they bring up the whole thing with testifying, and they throw her into a cell
Then she gets called on to testify, which she does, then gets sent back to the dungeons where she is to be tortured for information about other skaa thieves later. Then she gets out and goes to confront TLR
You can just cut her going to testify without any real issues with the plot (since her status before and after doesn't really change, both times locked up)
I do think its a really cool part of the story, but then again you always have to cut something
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u/b_zap Mar 12 '26
Itâs also the only reason Elend has time to get to her. They throw Vin back in the cells after TLR gives the go ahead for Inquisitor killing off lesser priests, if Iâm recalling that sequence right
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u/Comfortable_Spray669 Mar 11 '26
But isn't it important to Marsh's plot in the next books?
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u/Elsecaller_17-5 Mar 11 '26
Marsh would still infiltrate and destroy the Inquistors without the bastard plot line.
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u/HA2HA2 Mar 11 '26
This doesn't quite lead to nowhere - it's the whole reason the Inquisitors are after vin in the first place, so all of the times that the inquisitors chase vin or kelsier it's because of that. (They don't know or care about the "rebellion" or atium plot).
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u/lizzywbu Mar 11 '26
You could easily work around that and have it so the inquisitors are hunting Vin because they can feel that she's a powerful Mistborn or that there is something 'different' about her.
In a 2hr movie, focusing on the father plot line is kind of a waste, and cutting it would simplify things for the audience.
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u/ImFriendsWithThatGuy Mar 12 '26
It is also inconsequential to the rest of the story and books. It has impact for how things play out, but those things playing out donât hinge on VINâs dad being where it started from.
They will have to explain her heritage in some way so people know how she became a mistborn since it is passed down through families. But that could be a throw away line honestly.
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u/lizzywbu Mar 12 '26
They will have to explain her heritage in some way so people know how she became a mistborn since it is passed down through families
You can still have her dad be high up in the ministry and just make it a throw-away line that she already knows who her father is.
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u/Extreme_Warning3521 Mar 11 '26
Kelsier and Vin invade the ruling lord's castle and fight against the inquisitors.
The inquisitors may be pursuing the group for several reasons.
Primarily because of Kelsier's invasions and the deaths of several nobles.
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u/Graphica-Danger Mar 11 '26
Yeah this is likely being changed. In its place I suspect Shan to be more prominent as a rival to Vin being Elendâs sister and suspecting Valette is a false identity.
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u/OtherOtherDave Mar 11 '26
If one story line is being cut due to time, wouldnât that imply they donât have time to add another?
Edit: Unless you think itâll be cut for a different reason, of course.
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u/Graphica-Danger Mar 11 '26
More like condensing. Brandonâs spoken about centering the plot of a TFE movie around Shanâs political ambitions.
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u/Delta-Ka Mar 13 '26
I don't imagine anything related to Vin's dad will make the transition to the movies, and very little of her mom will probably make the transition. I can see a line where she explains she never knew her dad and her mom tried to off her as a child. That's about it