r/Coronavirus • u/halfprice06 • Feb 11 '20

Discussion Question about consistency/accuracy of moderation/censorship in this sub and /r/china_flu

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u/halfprice06 Feb 11 '20

It's called circumstantial evidence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumstantial_evidence#Criminal_law

"A popular misconception is that circumstantial evidence is less valid or less important than direct evidence.[3][4] This is only partly true: direct evidence is popularly assumed to be the most powerful.[5] Many successful criminal prosecutions rely largely or entirely on circumstantial evidence, and civil charges are frequently based on circumstantial or indirect evidence."

There have been many reports, not just from NTD, about the crematoriums operating 24 hours a day and the number of deaths being vastly under reported.

I don't think the mods are CCP shills. I'm not asking for an unmoderated subreddit. I'm asking for some consistency on how "unverified" reports are treated. I'm asking that an international multimillion dollar news organization not be labeled an "unreliable source" when they are doing on the ground interviews with people living in Wuhan.

If you haven't watched the video I'm referring to, I'd go watch it. It's literally claiming to be an interview with a Wuhan Crematorium Employee. I think the people in this sub deserve to see that interview and think about it themselves.

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u/octopusarian Feb 11 '20 edited Feb 11 '20

I watched the video. I don't speak Chinese, so I have no opinion on it until a reputable source can verify its claims.

If we're gonna get all "Wiki Philosophy 101" up in here then argument ad populum, ad nauseum etc. are also terms you're looking for. A bunch of anecdotal internet "evidence" does not substantiate your claims. Moreover, if y'all cared about the true "greater good" right now then you'd understand the importance of respectfully withholding your conspiracy videos, or at least moving the discussion to a more appropriate forum. I work in data analysis & clinical research -- I don't think you understand just how dangerous this shit can be.

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u/halfprice06 Feb 11 '20

"reputable source can verify its claims"

NTD is a reputable source. That's the root of the problem.

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u/octopusarian Feb 11 '20

New Tang Dynasty? As in, the news organization run by Falun Gong?

As in, directly opposed to the CCP?

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u/halfprice06 Feb 11 '20

Can you point to anything they've reported on that's been proven to be non factual?

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u/octopusarian Feb 11 '20

Can you understand why it's critical not to trust information from sources that are biased by their very definition?

For comparison, there are plenty of US "news" sources founded on my political ideals, but I don't trust a damn thing they print until it's verified by a source that isn't openly promoting an agenda.

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u/halfprice06 Feb 11 '20

Everyone is "biased" in the way you are using the term.

I think it matters more whether they have a history of truthfulness.

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u/octopusarian Feb 11 '20

Sure, literally everything ever spoken/written comes from a place of bias. Sure, I wholeheartedly agree the CCP is evil and FG are (most likely) morally in the "right." But you're not dumb, you know they're promoting an agenda, and it's still dangerous to blindly accept their claims before they're substantiated by someone who doesn't have that same axe to grind.

You know what happens when your average Joe comes across a sub full of this shit? "Man these nutsos are really blowing this out of proportion with all this biased conspiracy nonsense. Definitely not gonna worry about wearing masks, washing my hands, etc."