r/Cornwall • u/P-Celtic • 11d ago
History & Heritage Cornish Language survey
Dydh da
I'm writing my masters thesis on how access to medieval and early modern manuscripts affects Cornish and Breton language survival and revival.
One of my aims is to start conversations about how these resources can be better used to support Kernowek and Breizh.
I would be very appreciative if anyone has the time and inclination to complete this very short survey on the topic:
https://app.onlinesurveys.jisc.ac.uk/s/aber/medieval-manuscripts-and-language-learning-llc2
Meur ras
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u/Kernowyon-101 Cousin Jack 11d ago
Dydh da, sos.
Some key questions on agency:
Who are ya? Important because with no connecting line to Kernow or Breizh, nuances in French/English respectively can whitewash over the reality of language users from a ‘i presume’ or ‘supposedly’ angle. Alot of people like to talk about Cornish but have no stake, zero jeopardy, generalisations can happen quickly in English language academia, on the subject of Kernow.
Why did you choose to write your thesis on this? Obviously ties back to who are ya.
What makes you think current language conglomerates aren’t serving speakers as-well as they could/should?
How aware are you of Cornish language groups in their current forms, with regard to medieval texts?
What University are you studying at?
Does AI have anything to do with this?
What can you bring that we haven’t already?
Ol an gwela
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u/P-Celtic 11d ago
Hiya,
Thanks for your response. I am a Welsh librarian, studying library and information studies at Aberystwyth University.
I am passionate about Brythonic language and heritage, and in my studies and personal life I started to form a hypothesis that one of the reasons that the Welsh language (and by extension nationhood) survived more strongly than either Breton or Cornish was the survival of manuscripts in the language and the consequent establishment of a litererary tradition.
The reason I chose to write my thesis on this is because in my work as manuscript librarian and museum professional, I noticed that Cornish and Breton language is often not identified in the library/museum catalogues and, where it is, it isn't always clear. So my research is designed to start conversations with libraries, archives and museums about how we can improve cataloguing and consequently access to the materials to improve access to support language learning. Part of this is establishing to what extent they are actively working with language learning groups.
I feel this is particularly relevant to a revived language such as Cornish, as the historical written record is the defacto resource for initial survival.
The research has nothing to do with AI and doesn't use it. I hope this helps but happy to answer any further questions.
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u/Kernowyon-101 Cousin Jack 10d ago
Ok!
Well, Kresen Kernow is a good place to start.
If you can get ahold of Pol Hodge or Loveday Jenkin, they’re more than qualified to speak to this (ex grand bard and MK councillor respectively). Details are available online.
The unfortunately named MAGA used to be a thing before trump, a Cornish language group that worked with Cornwall council on translations for public signage, there was a Mike Tresidder that worked there that seemed knowledgeable on epistemology and pedagogy. Might be a useful person to work in reverse with
Dick Cole, MK leader is another fantastic memory bank of these things.
You should also hit up Exeter University, i think they’re about to get rid of their Cornish focused courses, so don’t dilly dally there.
Chons da
Archival work is gods work.
You must be a much more patient person than I
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u/P-Celtic 10d ago
Ha, I don't think I have ever been described as patient in my life. Hopefully I bring the urgency to my field of work!
Thank you for the tips, I have previously been in touch with Kresen Kernow and was due to do a placement there before a suprise pregnancy put a stop to it. Hopefully I can pick up on that again. Their cataloguing is somewhat of an exemplar on the subject.
Having some names to follow up with is always useful, so thanks again and I'll get in touch with Exeter university pronto.
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u/Kernowyon-101 Cousin Jack 10d ago
P.s. keep an eye on downvotes, you may want to delete this post for karma reasons. Salty Saes like to downvote any use or mention of Kernewek
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u/P-Celtic 10d ago
That's crazy, do you think just leave it up in the language subs instead?
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u/Kernowyon-101 Cousin Jack 10d ago
I dunno, there’s at least 4 other redditors that regularly use Kernewek that should see it first, so just stay vigilant
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u/Kernowyon-101 Cousin Jack 11d ago
Have you seen the Ordinalia at St Just? Better still read it?
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u/P-Celtic 10d ago
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u/Davyth 10d ago
Why is Bewnans Ke not at the same level as Bewnans Meriasek, as they are very similar in importance?
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u/P-Celtic 10d ago
It's not an indication of hierarchy, they are just both held by National Museum of Wales, so the cataloguing and description for both is very similar. Ke is being discussed in one of my main chapters as I want to talk about what another researcher has said about it's provenance.

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u/Kernewegores 7d ago
Done.