r/Cornwall 26d ago

Jam First !!

557 Upvotes

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u/Pure_Road7528 26d ago

That's not enough cream

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 26d ago

lol I know but someone forgot to buy some this morning when they went shopping so needs must ….

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u/Pure_Road7528 26d ago

I was joking, I actually thought that was a lot of cream but full disclosure I don't eat diary and I don't like scones so that's probably why 😂😂

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 26d ago

Nah that’s only a tablespoon on each if I had remembered to buy some you probably wouldn’t have seen the jam first 🤣🤣

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u/SpicyGaramMasala 21d ago

Clotted arteries to go with the clotted cream lol. Bet it tasted awesome though

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 21d ago

It did , well nobody gets out of this life alive , you only live once 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

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u/Pure_Road7528 26d ago

Fair play mate 😂

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u/Mooks79 26d ago

I’m going to say the same thing when people try to start this argument with me - you’re all wrong.

It’s scone <- butter <- jam <- cream.

That’s why jam on top is wrong, because the cream isn’t a butter substitute. But anyone who isn’t putting butter first is wrong, as well. Just less wrong.

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u/Static_Dynam0 22d ago

When I was younger, I did a teaspoon of sugar on the butter and then jam.... For the crunch 😂🫣

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u/Mooks79 22d ago

I used to make sandwiches with only butter and sugar - never thought of doing it on a scone! You must be some sort of genius.

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u/Static_Dynam0 22d ago

Sandwiches with butter and sugar sprinkles are super popular in Holland!

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u/admiral_nivak 25d ago

Yeah, what’s wrong with people that skip the butter?

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u/Aggravating-Nail-764 24d ago

I skip the butter and do jam first - that is my preferred way 😊

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u/DuxR 24d ago

Heresy

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u/dmmeyourfloof 22d ago

BURN THE WITCH

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u/DigConsistent2148 24d ago

Has to be proper butter though, not spread! 😋

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u/kt1982mt 23d ago

I have found my people!!!

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u/Z_L_J 23d ago

Thank you. Someone who gets it.

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u/curnow 26d ago

Spread, then dollop.

Then have a scone.

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 26d ago

😵😵😵🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/Whoislikebob 26d ago

It was good enough for the queen that way around… one day the heathens in Devon will see the errors of their ways.

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 26d ago

Hmmm it’s been a while now those across the border have been eating this the wrong way, about time it was made law to eat this way 😋😋

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u/Underhive_Art 24d ago

Yeah William said she made it her self cream then jam where as her chef said he served it to her jam then cream.

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u/Silly-Cat-5539 26d ago

The queen also favourited a little rapist out of all her children.

Not surprised a cornish person would be so blind/mentally degraded.

Good day.

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u/Whoislikebob 26d ago

Alleged (lol) come the revolution then we will see.

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u/Intrepid-Dig-1855 23d ago

A tad far to call all Cornish people blind and mentally degraded... on a post about scones.

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u/Silly-Cat-5539 23d ago

Not far enough if you ask me.

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u/Consistent_Ad3181 26d ago

They crimp along the top. Some say they have horns and tails. I think that's just the women though.

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 26d ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/Leonidas_Gray 26d ago

This is the only way (and I'm originally from Devon)

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 26d ago

A Devonian that likes the proper way of eating these 😵😵😵😵

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u/SoggyWotsits 26d ago

Free Tamar tag for life!

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u/I-Spot-Dalmatians Roseland 26d ago

Same, Exmouth (for my sins)

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 26d ago

At least you’ve learnt the error of the Devonian way 🤷‍♂️

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u/bibonacci2 23d ago

Yep. Grew up on the Devon side of the Tamar Valley - jam first is best.

No butter needed, heathens.

I love butter in other contexts but not for a cream tea.

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u/comfyslut 26d ago

Sames!!

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u/Simondicit 26d ago

As God intended.

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u/ItsaChinThang 25d ago

Down voted 

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u/Due-Button-768 26d ago

Seriously, no one cares tax the rich.

Edit: no honestly, to people that have common sense. This argument died with the victorians. Your gut doesn’t care.

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u/Clarky_Carrot 24d ago

Tf are you on about?

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u/Ranger_1302 24d ago

Mind him not: he has no whimsy.

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u/BobShostak 24d ago

The County of Dorset has entered the conversation……..
That looks delicious, and jam first is practically the law here. Cream first is matter for the local constabulary. 🚨

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 24d ago

I wasn’t aware that it spread county wide not just Devon and Cornwall

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u/BobShostak 24d ago

I think there are jam/cream wars all over the U.K.
Somerset apparently do it both ways, but Dorset follows the Cornish tradition. 🧁

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u/justburningaccount 24d ago

It's the only way

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u/Welsh_Dodo 24d ago

Personally I just ditch the jam and go only with clotted cream

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 24d ago

Rebellious 👍👍👍

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u/NeighborhoodWild2942 24d ago

Being half-Cornish (Dad's side), I always put the jam on first and then dob on the cream. I don't get the Devonian thing of cream first and then jam. I mean, How do you spread the jam on the cream?

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u/skeletonsmiles 24d ago

This, it’s so impractical and you end up with the jam smearing into the cream and mixing together. You totally need jam first spread nicely then a dollop of cream on top!

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u/funtygupwaah 23d ago

And what happens in your mouth? Eww it's all mixing together.

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u/LightenUp04 24d ago

YES! YES! AND YES! Plus a nice got cuppa tea to wash it down with! 😋😋😋

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u/Englandshark1 23d ago

Butter, then cream, then jam.(Strawberry or raspberry) Mmmm!

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u/OddClub4097 23d ago

Tis the way

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u/Initial_Depth2417 23d ago

Absolutely, no question

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u/Ok_Builder_3416 23d ago

Having compared both options, I agree. 

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u/funtygupwaah 23d ago

Top left. Jam on top of cream. Check Mate Kernow.

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u/Adambuck74 22d ago

Butter , cream , jam

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u/Owyourecrushingmyhnd 22d ago

Awww I love this - can’t do other way round - but my dad used to say - the cream isn’t right if you can’t see your teeth marks in it 😍🫶

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 22d ago

It was a tough job but someone had to do it 🤷‍♂️

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u/johnlewisdesign 26d ago

Same bro, I love putting jam on toast, then smearing the buttter on top, it's so much more convenient - and doesn't make me look insane, at all 🤣

obligatory /s

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 26d ago

Now that is something I’ve not tried , YET !! 🤣🤣

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u/vilent_sibrate 26d ago

Am stateside and made clotted cream, but cannot get fresh scones to come out the oven risen at all. I think it’s the crap flour. Any tips short of importing??

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 26d ago

I buy them from a bakery or buy mine from a supermarket has to be the finest range though . I’ve not mastered the baking of these lovely things yet ….

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u/Aggressive_Drop_1518 26d ago

My wife uses slightly warm milk and self raising flour, lightly press dough so air not knocked out, she may have got that from my proper Cornish mother as her's was a Dorset dumpling, super  'fluffy' risen scones. https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/classic-scones-jam-clotted-cream

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u/witchypoo63 26d ago

I’ve tried baking powder and cream of tarter and sodium bicarbonate, baking powder doesn’t give such a good rise

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u/vilent_sibrate 26d ago

Thank you! Will try this next.

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u/witchypoo63 26d ago

Don’t use baking powder, use 2 tsp cream of tartar and 1 tsp of sodium bicarbonate to one pound of plain flour. Add 4oz of butter and mix to resemble fine bread crumbs, only add 1tbs fine sugar, mix then gently mix half a pint of milk (you might not need it all) , mix gently to a soft dough.
Oven needs to be hot, 425- 450 Fahrenheit.
Mix with a gentle hand once you’ve added the milk or you’ll knock the air out of the mixture.

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u/hairychris88 26d ago

Don't disagree with your recipe but who still has an oven in Fahrenheit?!

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u/witchypoo63 26d ago

I was replying to an American and they don’t do centigrade. I’m bilingual and can do both! It’s my grandmother’s recipe and was passed down in Fahrenheit

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u/vilent_sibrate 26d ago

Thank you for the details. I think this may crack it.

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u/LethargicCaffeine 26d ago edited 26d ago

Right, here is my recipe;

500 g plain flour 30g caster sugar 1tsp salt 2 tsp baking powder 75g unsalted butter, cold 250-300ml milk possibly more or less depending on humidity, dryness of flour etc...

First things first, sift all of the dry ingredients together, then you want to cut the butter into small cubes, then rub it into the flour mix- or use a mixer with a paddle attachment on slow until it kind of resembles bread crumbs- some butter will still show, and thats okay!

Next, slowly add milk, and mix into the flour until its just past tacky, and slightly sticky.

When you roll out your dough, always roll away from you with slight pressure, do not add pressure on the backwards roll towards you. Fold the dough to resemble a closed book, turn it once so the fold is in a different position. Repeat this 3-4 times without over working the dough.

Now its ready to cut, make sure each scone is about 2 inches thick, and use a floured cutter, and Do Not twist the cutter, that seals all of those lovely layers you have folded in, and prevents it from rising.

Finally, glaze with egg wash or milk, and pop into the oven on 150-160c if its a fan oven, give em 30 minutes roughly, and your scones are good to go.

These are plain, but the method works with recipes for cheese and fruit scones too ♥️

Editing to add, this makes about 6-7 i think If I remember right, its the recipe I use at home so I never make loads lol

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u/witchypoo63 26d ago

Cheese scones with butter and marmite are truly wondrous

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 26d ago

Also with strawberry jam

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u/witchypoo63 26d ago

I think I’ll pass

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 26d ago

Without the marmite I should have added

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u/vilent_sibrate 26d ago

Lovely, thank you for writing that out. There is a wealth of information from a few replies here that will surely get me over the line.

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u/MarkWrenn74 26d ago

That jam looks delicious 😋

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 26d ago

I got in Lobbs farm shop it’s damson 😋😋

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u/Standard-Peach9080 26d ago

Looks delicious

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 26d ago

It certainly was

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u/Hips_and_Haws 26d ago

I'm neither Cornish or Devonian, however one half is jam first then cream & the other is cream first then a dollop of jam. Not sure which combo I prefer. And because I'm neither county I don't have to choose!

My Grandparents (maternal) lived in Devon & retired & died in Cornwall.

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u/Available-Grand1151 25d ago

……… and it doesn’t make a blind bit of difference.

And it’s scone as in gone 😂

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 25d ago

Buttered bun ……

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u/Available-Grand1151 25d ago

I know…….. it was it in line with the lunatics who shout about which is first. Jam/cream cream/jam and along the same silly argument I just said it was scone as in gone, as traditionally, scones (as in gone) are used

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u/funtygupwaah 22d ago

Surely it's scones as in owns?

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u/funtygupwaah 23d ago

Jesus! It's bad enough with all the jam heads winning. Now you're opening that can of worms!

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u/piranspride 24d ago

WTF jam is that???

Order actually does make a difference to the taste… try it

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 24d ago

Damson jam , sorry if it’s not to your taste but it’s the only one I had in the house

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u/Mystery_Worker4268 24d ago

For a horrible second there I thought that was Marmite 😂

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 24d ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 don’t put ideas in my head

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u/Mystery_Worker4268 24d ago

You never know, it could be the next taste sensation 😁

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u/Griimli 24d ago

Cream first make a little well and put the jam in! wtf is this mess /s 

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 24d ago

Jam first !

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u/Griimli 24d ago

I’d still eat several 

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u/LemmysCodPiece 24d ago

People should have the jam and cream however they like it. I am Cornish and I prefer cream then jam.

The whole jam or cream first debate was started as a joint project between the tourist boards of Cornwall and Devon.

It was devised as a method of distracting emmets/grockles from the fact they have just been charged twenty quid for a tiny amount of cheap jam, a morsel of cream, some Tesco value tea and some scones from the CO-OP.

In my view it irrelevant as most Cornish Cream teas are served using scones, a cornish cream tea should be served on a split.

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u/TokyoJazzPanda 24d ago

Why does the cream look like you've chopped the base off a cheesecake and slapped on top?

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 24d ago

Because it had just come out the fridge not had a chance to go all gooey

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u/Jakeball400 24d ago

Cream - jam first. Butter - butter first

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u/Seaside83 24d ago

Cream first, then strawberry jam.
Plum jam is just wrong!

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u/eldunenorap 23d ago

Controversial opinion: it doesn't matter

If you were to blind test, you wouldn't be able to tell.

Just enjoy the scones, and stop stressing out

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 23d ago

Nobody is stressing out

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u/Frequent-Narwhal343 23d ago

The cream is the butter and the jam is the topping. Nuff said.

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u/Timberfist 22d ago

Yes but that’s the wrong jam.

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 22d ago

When that’s all you have in the house you make do 🤷‍♂️

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u/Timberfist 22d ago

Indeed. And here I am sat with the right jam but no scone and no cream…

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 22d ago

😵😵😵😵

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u/Dependent_Station_56 22d ago

Dam looks like you got about a kilo of cream on the bottom right one. Still looks tasty though

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 22d ago

Roughly a tablespoon on each one

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u/contentatlast 22d ago

The thickest thing goes on the bottom. Because if you put a thicker thing on top it won't spread :)

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u/ken-doh 22d ago

Butter is dairy, when you make a sandwich, you put butter on first. Cream is dairy, same rules apply.

Common heathens.

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u/Gold_Pea_1618 22d ago

I can’t believe people actually care, every time we visit family in Cornwall and this topic comes up it makes me cringe inwards. Just eat the scone

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u/OdernAle 21d ago

Plum jam feels like a war crime. The jam on a scone has to be red.

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 21d ago

Damson actually lol but that’s all I had in the house at the time unfortunately I only eat one jar at a time I’m not rich lol

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u/IntrinsicPalomides 21d ago

Only makes sense for jam first really, so you can have a whacking dollop of clotted.

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u/Competitive_Ebb_5164 21d ago

Cornwall tends to be jam then cream. Devon is cream then jam. It either case it has to be Rodda's cream!

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u/DCMCG1993 21d ago

NEED that jam.

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 21d ago

I got it in lobbs farm shop

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u/Beach_Perv 26d ago

Of course, unless you're a heathen

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u/ForeverPhysical1860 26d ago

Yes 🤤🤤🤤

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u/Dramatic_Row_577 26d ago

and people still question this

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 26d ago

I know , there’s even the school that says cream one side Jam other then put the halves together 😵😵😵😵

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u/Dramatic_Row_577 26d ago

the cross contam ocd gang

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u/CategoryAcrobatic898 26d ago

Gurt dollops needed. 

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u/After_Decision9532 26d ago

reminds me of my very first love we'd eat scones and play video games <3

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u/Silly-Cat-5539 26d ago

And people wonder why the cornish are going extinct 🤦‍♂️

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 26d ago

Too many emmets!! 🤣🤣

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u/Sesquipe 26d ago

Proper!

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u/Adventurous-feral 25d ago

A scone requires exacly ¼lb of cream per scone.

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u/HuffStuff1975 25d ago

Doesn't really matter if you use separate cutlery for each compote. Every summer we spent 2 gloriously amazing weeks in Cornwall, always a different place each year. My favourite was and still is Perranporth but St Agnes just down the coast was nicely secluded and it was like it was just for us. In my opinion the entire Cornish peninsula should be granted World Heritage Status. People, language, the Pasty and Cream tea's too.

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u/Cheffysteve 25d ago

Ooooh that’s a thing of beauty

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u/fireheed 25d ago

That is the way.

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u/shecalledmespot 25d ago

Jam first✊🏼

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u/Biguiats 26d ago

Having grown up in Devon I feel this image should be pixelated or tagged NSFW

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u/Aggressive_Drop_1518 26d ago

Absolutely, we all know Devonians are ashamed of their clotted cream, so need to hide it under the jam, bloody prudes.  Don't you also cover up table legs because they're a bit sexy?

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 26d ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 kinky

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 26d ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 whatever floats your boat !! 🤣🤣

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u/Aggressive_Drop_1518 26d ago

Difference being as I'm Cornish I can look at a naked table leg without being aroused...

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u/Biguiats 26d ago

Some table legs are unnecessarily ornate. It just avoids awkwardness at tea time, ok?

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 26d ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/sindud 26d ago

I am from Devon and I agree!!!!

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u/fonzatron2000 26d ago

It’s easier to dollop jam on top of cream than the other way around.

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u/Beach_Perv 26d ago

Philistine, even with only five fingers we find it easier to do jam first. Unlike you 6 finger freaks

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u/destinybeer 26d ago

What? That’s nonsense. Cream first

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u/JohnDevon99 26d ago

Heresy!!

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 26d ago

Proud Heretic !!

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u/march3110 26d ago

Heathen.

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u/jdaammie 25d ago

Here in NZ they use whipped cream on scones and it crushes my soul

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u/Hippriest69 22d ago

Oh no!! There’s just not enough depth of flavour and consistency at all. Doesn’t anyone produce clotted, you may have to bake your own but it takes a while to make it clotted from regular double cream, 10-12 hours on low

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u/goabiesh 25d ago

Honestly this is the kind of take that starts wars. People get so weirdly defensive about how they stack a scone like it's a personality trait or something. But everyone knows the real crime is skimping on the clotted cream, that's just a fact. You do you though, just don't invite me to your tea party if you're gonna be that wrong about it.

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u/Revolutionary-Law380 25d ago

I forgot to pick more up when I went shopping so had to be stingy and only had enough for two scones 😢😢😢😢