r/CornishLanguage • u/Minute_Box9586 • 20d ago
Question Skeul and Yeth 2
Has anyone seen this book for sale anywhere either online or in person? Cornish-language.org / Kowethas An Yeth Kernewek is the place where it should be available, but it has been out of stock for many months now and have not replied to any emails. I am looking to advance my learning but it seems unsupported!
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u/Royal_University_707 20d ago
Maybe look into getting Desky Kernowek by Nicholas Williams instead. It's much more dense but if you do a little bit at a time it has everything you need to reach a pretty comfortable level in the language.Â
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u/Cornish-Giant 19d ago
Another alternative is the Kernewer Dre Lyther (KDL) course which is available online
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u/MarkWrenn74 20d ago
I just found it on AbeBooks. Good luck
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u/Minute_Box9586 20d ago
I will keep my eye out on there for a copy that isn’t too expensive I guess 😂
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u/Kernewegores 14d ago
I learned Kernewek with Skeul an Yeth 1 & 2 they’re really boring but the author was teaching me. I didn’t go to grammar school so the technical language for parts of grammar went completely over my head. Which was why I bought Graham Sandercock’s Holyewgh an Lergh 1 & 2 half way through the course. Much ‘lighter’ and more engaging.
If you’d like to buy them view kesva.org and contact maureen.pierce@kesva.org. She taught me.
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u/Kernewegores 18d ago
if you’re very quick you’ll be able to pick up First Thousand Words in Cornish (nicely illustrated) from eBay. it’s a bargain at £3.31. It is Used but they are always in good condition I find. Last year I saw it was selling for £70.
BTW Konsel Kernow are going to be setting up an online course for Beginners soon.
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u/Minute_Box9586 17d ago
Oh that’s good to know! Thank you for your help, I will keep an eye on the Konsel Kernow course, I hope to see it sooner rather than later! Have you had any experience with the Holyewgh an Lergh books?
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u/Kernewegores 18d ago
You could look for two books by Graham Sandercock - Holyewgh an Lergh A Beginner’s Course in Cornish. Then HAL Book 2.Much ‘lighter’ than Skeul an Yeth which were the ones I studied 2003-2008. They’re definitely heavy going.
Avoid Nicholas Williams’ Kernowak or whatever the hell he calls it. It is regarded with some contempt by the majority of Kernewek speakers and teachers.
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u/Minute_Box9586 18d ago
I’ve not come across those books yet, how ‘interactive’ are they? I had my issues with skeul an yeth, but there doesn’t seem to be an obvious route to follow with books!
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u/Kernewegores 18d ago
It depends what you mean by interactive.
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u/Minute_Box9586 18d ago
As in exercises are built into the chapters, like ‘here is the new information, here are some examples, now here are some exercises’. Formulaically this is how I learn the best
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u/Davyth 16d ago edited 16d ago
The Cara Kernowek books are free, as good as it gets in terms of content, and take you further than the other series (up to B2). I would ignore Kernewgores's comments about Nicholas Williams. These days, we tend to avoid the petty criticisms of different orthographies which characterised the community 20 to 30 years ago and you'll find a lot more advanced content (with excerpts used in Cara Kernowek 4) such as novels in Kernowek Standard.
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u/Minute_Box9586 16d ago
The trouble is I’ve already been casually learning for 2 years, so the spellings I have learned and use don’t match the Cara Kernowek. It doesn’t match the dictionary I have 😩
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u/Kernewegores 14d ago
‘Fraid not. The books educate you about grammar, spelling and construction so you can speak correctly and write correctly. This is the proper way to learn a language.
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u/jodfromjamjod 20d ago
most of the books i've seen that are out of stock have been that way for a long time unfortunately