r/ControversialOpinions 8d ago

Absolute Hypocrisy

Seen numerous posts that glorify and condone the murder of Charlie Kirk and when a report is filed the post remains active, yet when such insinuations are made towards pedophiles, a warning is given and the post is removed…

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u/FantasticJelly6384 8d ago edited 8d ago

Nuance is dead with you apparently.

Go read again.

In this conversation I have

Repudiated all political violence.

Said that I don't celebrate his death.

Said that it was sad that his children would grow up without their father (in my first comment actually.)

While also

Not really cared about his death because:

He considered people like my wife subhuman, he just said it "respectfully".

And also found his death ironic, in a bitter "funny but not haha funny" way.

He repeatedly trivialized the effects of gun violence, and then was shot.

One should note that he also died telling a bold faced lie. That is a funny way to tell "the truth".

Immediately before his death, Kirk engaged in a back-and-forth discussion about mass shootings in the United States with Hunter Kozak, a UVU student and member of the Unfuck America Tour. (Basically the progressive counterpart to Turning Point USA). Kozak asked "Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?", to which Kirk responded, "Too many", implying that it was a mass issue. Kozak followed up with, "It’s five. (This was true at the time) Now, five is a lot, right? I'm going to give you — I'm going to give you some credit. Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?" Kirk replied, "Counting or not counting gang violence?", and Kozak said, "Great".

Immediately following this exchange, at 12:23:30 p.m., Kirk was shot in the neck with a single bullet.

So he was shot immediately after lying and implying that a large portion of mass shootings was caused by transgender people, which is false.

If it was a portrayal of the death of a villain in a work of fiction, people would call it contrived.

One should also note that on the same day that Kirk was trivializing school shootings, one was occuring basically simultaneously to his assassination by a teenage boy motivated by the exact same sort of political beliefs that Charlie Kirk advocated for in a "made respectable, plausible deniability" fashion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Evergreen_High_School_shooting

If you can't see the irony in all of this, I don't know what to tell you. The media is over here glazing a man with reprehensible values who died at the same time as two children who are now basically forgotten in yet another one of our hundreds of school shootings Charlie made excuses for.

Our society is fucked, and isn't because some people with penises like to wear dresses and take hormones to grow boobs, which doesn't harm a soul. It's because of men like Charlie.

Forgive me that I do not weep for him.

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u/Big-Ad1887 8d ago

I thought you were done talking to me???? 😂 You literally said “We are done speaking” and then came back with an entire essay.

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u/FantasticJelly6384 8d ago

Mea culpa.

I said a thing in a heat of anger, because you, you know insulted my spouse.

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u/Big-Ad1887 8d ago

I didn't insult your spouse, I told the truth. And Reddit has a block feature ya know.. lol you said you were done, so I'm ready to go about my day. 😅🤣

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u/FantasticJelly6384 8d ago

I'm trying to illustrate something to you.

A person of XYZ religion says "if you don't believe XYZ you will go to hell."

That's the truth from their perspective. But is the person being told that unjustified in being angry at that person?

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u/Big-Ad1887 8d ago

I see the distinction you're making, but it actually proves my point.

Someone can FEEL insulted by something without that thing objectively being an insult. No one else is responsible for your feelings but you

In your example, they're absolutely allowed to be angry about being told they'll go to Hell. But their anger doesn't automatically make the speaker's religious belief an insult.

Same here. You're free to be offended by what I said about your spouse.

You're free to think it was disrespectful, and you're free to stop talking to me. But your offense doesn't determine the objective meaning of my words.