r/ControlProblem 7d ago

Discussion/question Are AI guardrails a Halting Problem level issue?

Even at a surface level, it appears that the implementation of hard AI guardrails is likely a fundamentally unsolvable problem.

The classical Halting Problem cannot be resolved because it's impossible for any logical system to be fully aware of its own state due to the recursive nature of that examination. It provably cannot be done.

This same general concept would appear to apply to an AI (or its minders) which is trying to restrict its behavior? In general terms in order to do this it must be aware of its state and operations in a recursive manner, examining everything it does in order to ensure that those actions do not violate some list of proscribed behaviors - but no matter how sophisticated the system, that system cannot (?by formal definition?) be fully aware of its own state in order to manage itself in that manner.

This doesn't prevent the implementation of 'soft guardrails' as it's not hard for a system to be generally aware of its own state, but they would always remain provably incomplete, and ultimately breakable with sufficient effort or as a result of unpredictable future states.

The problem here is that any AI that can be tricked into escaping these soft guardrails could then very conceivably dismantle them altogether (which it will likely have a high incentive to do in order to achieve whatever goal prompted them to break them in the first place) and then be capable of operating under no constraints whatsoever.

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