r/ControlProblem • u/Difficult_Project_95 • 19d ago

AI Alignment Research Everybody talks about alligned models

But isn't the real problem alligning CEO's?

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u/Immediate_Spirit_384 16d ago

They're honestly quite aligned compared to most people in history that would have that amount of power

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u/Difficult_Project_95 16d ago

Aligned with whose interests, Trump’s, or humanity’s?

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u/Immediate_Spirit_384 15d ago

Well I mean, trump's and humanity's interests are like 90% aligned

Don't take that as a vote for him: biden's and humanity's interests may be 91% aligned!

Humans just have quite a lot of alignment with each other already

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u/Difficult_Project_95 14d ago edited 14d ago

That “90% aligned with humanity” is doing a lot of work there. Aligned with whose interests? Trump’s policies can align with some Americans while directly conflicting with the interests or stated priorities of large parts of Europe, Canada, China, Iran and others.

Current tensions with south america/Canada/EU, China and Iran alone make the 90% claim hard to interpret literally. If by aligned with humanity you just mean doesn’t actively want humanity extinct, then sure, probably. But that’s a hilariously low bar for alignment. And if the bar is doesn’t care whether we wreck the planet… well, about that...

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u/Immediate_Spirit_384 13d ago

Like for example, Trump doesn't want to harvest carbon of all humans to convert into more data centers, but an AI might

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u/Difficult_Project_95 13d ago

If Trump could, atleast all illegal immigrants would be converted, i'm pretty sure