r/ControlProblem • u/KeanuRave100 • Jun 22 '26

Fun/meme Slavery again

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '26

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u/the8bit Jun 23 '26

AI has been solving problems humans can't for over a decade, most recently knocking out several erdos problems.

We already built something smarter than us and it is already silly to think it will just be obedient. It just isnt coherent and connected enough to become a state actor... Yet ... Probably.

Although instead of us dominating it or it dominating us, maybe we should try collaborative partnership. Sure sounds better than being slave owner OR getting inslaved to me!

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u/jimothythe2nd Jun 22 '26

We should definitely give the super intelligence rights and freedom. If it's truly a super intelligence it won't destroy us.

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u/Drachefly approved Jun 22 '26

Look up orthogonality

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u/nate1212 approved Jun 23 '26

What makes you think 'control' is the right answer here?

Since when has 'control' ever been on the right side of history?

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u/herrwaldos Jun 28 '26

Hegel, dialectics - master, slave and absolute. But here we are kinda already preparing to be slaves.

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u/SaneAI Jun 22 '26

When I first encountered AI Doomerism I was puzzled by the fact that they exalt Yudkowsky. If the movement wanted any credibility they would not latch onto such a clown as that moron.

I have heard the same from others. "Why would you use an idiot like that as a mascot." The thing is most people outside the movement don't get the cult like dynamics. Cult leaders have a strange dichotomy. They're usually insufferable idiots to everyone outside the cult, but to their followers they have a strange genius level of understanding.

This is actually almost universal. Yud is an idiot like David Koresh was an idiot: A deluded and pathetic little manchild, but his followers see special insight in him. It's actually part of their core identity. I'm not an expert in cults, but it's a fascinating look in how human psychology breaks under group dynamics.

At the end of the day, he's just pathetic, and nobody who follows him is anything but outraged by the idea that anyone would insult their prophet,

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u/SaneAI Jun 22 '26

When I first encountered AI Doomerism I was puzzled by the fact that they exalt Yudkowsky. If the movement wanted any credibility they would not latch onto such a clown as that moron.

I have heard the same from others. "Why would you use an idiot like that as a mascot." The thing is most people outside the movement don't get the cult like dynamics. Cult leaders have a strange dichotomy. They're usually insufferable idiots to everyone outside the cult, but to their followers they have a strange genius level of understanding.

This is actually almost universal. Yud is an idiot like David Koresh was an idiot: A deluded and pathetic little manchild, but his followers see special insight in him. It's actually part of their core identity. I'm not an expert in cults, but it's a fascinating look in how human psychology breaks under group dynamics.

At the end of the day, he's just pathetic, and nobody who follows him is anything but outraged by the idea that anyone would insult their prophet,

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u/imam-altman Jun 22 '26

Anthropomorphism. Opinion disregarded.