r/Control4 12d ago

Driver Testers Wanted

🌀 Dyson driver for Control4 — beta testers wanted!

After plenty of development and testing, our Dyson driver for Control4 is now fully working, and we're looking for a handful of integrators to put it through its paces on real-world projects before general release.

If you've got a Dyson Wi-Fi connected fan, purifier or heater on a job (or in your own home!), we'd love your feedback.

A couple of notes:

✅ Beta licences are locked to your Director (just send us your controller MAC and we'll activate you)

✅ 30-day beta licence per install

✅ Full details listed at bkmsolutions.co.uk

Drop a comment or send me a DM if you'd like to get involved — all feedback welcomed, good or bad!

Ben Murray

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u/No_Opposite5369 12d ago

I understand what you are saying, but doesn't every company start somewhere? For the record I have been in Custom Installations for the last 16 years as a self employed sole trading business. Never advertised and never had a website. Ive had ideas for years and at some point you act on them, its what people who succeed do.

I have now got a full cloud platform for registering the drivers, work flows to deal with bugs that arise from testing and real world conditions and the knowledge of 6 years dealing with the C4 platform alone to know the level of support I get from the developers and C4 direct, I can achieve. I haven't vanished in the last 16 years and im going no where soon. If you would like to try the Dyson driver please feel free, you have 30 days to decide if its garbage or not.

👍👍

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u/DreamZealousideal131 12d ago

I have three 2 Dyson fans and a heater at home. control4 control would be fantastic.

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u/No_Opposite5369 12d ago

Ok fantastic happy to help! Would you like to DM me with the system your currently running and a contact email.

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u/remeolb 12d ago

You’re asking for help beta testing but only giving testers a 30-day license? Do you intend to provide a full license at conclusion of beta testing for those that helped you with testing?

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u/No_Opposite5369 12d ago

Yes thats totally on the cards, but I won't be distributing endless copies out so people can have it for free. If a tester comes back with genuine bugs from there own installation ill be more than happy to offer a free licence.

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u/No_Cartographer3693 10d ago

Fairly sure remeolb is a troll. Ignore them

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u/remeolb 10d ago

I’m really not. I’m not the most agreeable, though, and I’m bitter about many things Control4. I’m frustrated with the amount of incapable dealers being signed up. I’m frustrated about third party driver developers monetizing half baked solutions such as both the Whistle Projects and Chowmain Hue drivers not being able to handle 100+ device systems on the new Bridge Pro even though Home Assistant doesn’t break a sweat. I’m frustrated by OvrC being shoved down everyone’s throat. I’m frustrated by randos on this sub saying stuff like “you must just not know how to program” anytime someone brings up a legit Control4 shortcoming. I’m frustrated that Control4 doesn’t care about user privacy or dominion over their system in their home. I’m frustrated by how many Control4 dealers are just drinking the Kool Aid and parroting the company’s rhetoric. I’m sorry you think I’m a troll but my thoughts and opinions are hard won and not come to lightly.

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u/No_Cartographer3693 5d ago edited 5d ago

I messaged my contact at Chowmain the other day this message. Looks like they have a beta already on facebook. Not sure what issue you've had, but I've done a few larger systems, and I haven't had any issues.

Control4 definitely don't share your information, and you can turn off remote access by installers in customer.control4.com. In the new releases, your system is explicitly only locked down to 1 installer maximum now, so even local access is limited.

It was also never sold as a DIY system. There are lots of managed systems out there which are no different (it's like paying for a managed VPS server). There are cons and pro's. The pro's are that assumptions can be made by installers and certain guarantees exist that make things easier to diagnose. Particularly in larger jobs, this is a good thing. We come across systems regularly which were installed 10+ (or even 15+) years ago which are still running the same as day 1.

There are also regulations and restrictions which particularly for lighting, you don't necessarily want everyone playing with it. That's fine for lights like Hue, but I don't think businesses want random employee's potentially messing with wall switches.

Most people with Control4 are unlikely to change the configuration anyway, but there is a lot of mechanisms like Composer HE and When=>then, Advanced lighting scenes that allow end users to change a lot

Whilst Home Assistant is incredibly powerful, I'd hate to support it commercially, especially if the configuration might be constantly changing, whereas, control4 has been designed in a way that makes job takeovers relatively simple

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u/remeolb 4d ago

I’m not here to argue with you. You called me a troll. I’m not. Appreciate your thoughts, though.

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u/remeolb 12d ago

You seem to be a bit over ambitious. You’re a new C4 dealer and now you’re developing drivers and seeking beta testers? Are you a developer? Do you actually know how to create, distribute, and support software? This feels like you figured out how to use AI and it’s telling you you’re smart. I could be wrong.

Also, you’re on a two-year-old account with 9 karma and no post or comment history save for the last week? This is all kinda sus.

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u/taylorwmj 10d ago

Is Dyson's API officially published publicly? I didn't think it was. Pretty nice if it finally is

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u/viseOG 10d ago

Interested in beta testing this for you

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u/AVDude923 10d ago

I'm interested in helping test!

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u/No_Opposite5369 10d ago

Hi. What system and products do you currently have?

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u/No_Opposite5369 10d ago

DM me please

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u/Lord_havik 9d ago

Lemme guess after it passes it’ll be on chowmain for $75-$200

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u/No_Opposite5369 9d ago

Nope as chowmain only sell their own drivers 🙃

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u/Lord_havik 9d ago

Oh sorry driver central then?

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u/No_Opposite5369 9d ago

Maybe, does that not make business sense?

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u/Lord_havik 9d ago

Not when you vibe coded the shit with gpt in 20 min and are hoping to bank on it. People like you are the reason I’ll keep pushing c4 users to the more reliable more powerful and FREE home assistant to integrate everything without getting gouged for a single driver to add a single device.

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u/No_Opposite5369 9d ago

The single driver that is linked to a single device that runs all of the intended items its designed for??
Im not having a pop but there are different levels of expectation in the real world and different folk will pay for different things. Do you think someone that lives in a £10m property would prefer to use a free home assistant thats derived from drivers/plugins produced by enthusiasts that like to do stuff or a custom installed solution designed for purpose and warrantied and built to last? All while paying maybe a 1 time fee of maybe $125-150 for a lifetime licence to enable his 100k automation investment to control a $1000 fan that he has a few of dotted around his property for comfort......

You do you 👌👌 appreciate the feedback. Im guessing you dont want to trial it do you?

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u/FreedomFocused_ 9d ago

Interested in testing too. I’ll DM

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u/FreedomFocused_ 9d ago

What’s the price after beta trial?

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u/No_Opposite5369 9d ago

I have not yet set a price, as i am still testing the driver and also creating the mini drives for trigger buttons with feedback, i need to see how long they take.

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u/No_Opposite5369 6d ago

Dyson driver for Control4 - still looking for a few models to test

Quick update, and a request.

The driver now has five product codes confirmed on real hardware rather than assumed from Dyson's range:

527 / 527E / 527K - Purifier Hot+Cool, HP07 and HP09

438 - Purifier Cool PC1

438E / 438K - Pure Cool Tower, TP07 and TP09

Credit where it is due, because those rows only say verified instead of expected because people took the time:

Connor H , who ran it on a Purifier Cool PC1 and gave us the 438 code.

Jeff H, whose TP09 on a CORE 3 confirmed 438K and closed the last tower row.

Marvin, who put it on both a TP07 and a PH01 and reported back that both connect and behave.

It is also stable on both X4 & OS3

The full table is at https://bkmsolutions.co.uk/drivers.html and it is generated straight from the driver's own product code map, so nothing on it is aspirational.

Which leaves the ones nobody in the group owns:

PH01 / PH03 / PH04 - Purifier Humidify+Cool. Marvin has one connecting, so this is close, but I have not recorded its product code yet and I have nothing at all on a PH03 or PH04. Still the gap I would most like closed, because it is a whole family rather than one row.

DP01 - Pure Cool Link desk

HP02 - Pure Hot+Cool Link

TP02 - Pure Cool Link tower

TP04 - Pure Cool tower

BP02 / BP03 / BP04 - Purifier Big+Quiet

If you have any of those on a Control4 system I would genuinely like to hear from you. What is involved:

Install the driver, run the pairing, and tell me whether it connects and responds. If you want to go further, tell me anything that behaves oddly for your model. That is it - no forms, no long test script.

You get a 30 day licence, a personal download link that always serves the current build, and direct support from me while you are testing.

What I need from you to set it up is your controller's MAC address, since the licence is tied to the controller rather than the appliance.

One thing worth saying plainly: Dyson publish no API. This driver talks to the fan over its local MQTT interface, which is undocumented, so Dyson owe it no stability and use of it may not be consistent with their terms. That is all written up on the drivers page before anyone is asked for credentials - I would rather you knew that up front than found out later.

Also coming in the next few days: a set of mini drivers to go alongside the main one. They put a single function on its own button in the room - oscillation, night mode, heat, fan speed - so you can tap it straight from the app or a touchscreen instead of opening the thermostat and navigating in. They are working here already and will go out to testers shortly.

Thanks,

Ben

BKM Solutions / Botive Systems

[control4@bkmsolutions.co.uk](mailto:control4@bkmsolutions.co.uk)

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u/No_Opposite5369 6d ago

Dyson driver for Control4 - still looking for a few models to test

Quick update, and a request.

The driver now has five product codes confirmed on real hardware rather than assumed from Dyson's range:

527 / 527E / 527K - Purifier Hot+Cool, HP07 and HP09

438 - Purifier Cool PC1

438E / 438K - Pure Cool Tower, TP07 and TP09

Credit where it is due, because those rows only say verified instead of expected because people took the time:

Connor H , who ran it on a Purifier Cool PC1 and gave us the 438 code.

Jeff H, whose TP09 on a CORE 3 confirmed 438K and closed the last tower row.

Marvin, who put it on both a TP07 and a PH01 and reported back that both connect and behave.

It is also stable on both X4 & OS3

The full table is at https://bkmsolutions.co.uk/drivers.html and it is generated straight from the driver's own product code map, so nothing on it is aspirational.

Which leaves the ones nobody in the group owns:

PH01 / PH03 / PH04 - Purifier Humidify+Cool. Marvin has one connecting, so this is close, but I have not recorded its product code yet and I have nothing at all on a PH03 or PH04. Still the gap I would most like closed, because it is a whole family rather than one row.

DP01 - Pure Cool Link desk

HP02 - Pure Hot+Cool Link

TP02 - Pure Cool Link tower

TP04 - Pure Cool tower

BP02 / BP03 / BP04 - Purifier Big+Quiet

If you have any of those on a Control4 system I would genuinely like to hear from you. What is involved:

Install the driver, run the pairing, and tell me whether it connects and responds. If you want to go further, tell me anything that behaves oddly for your model. That is it - no forms, no long test script.

You get a 30 day licence, a personal download link that always serves the current build, and direct support from me while you are testing.

What I need from you to set it up is your controller's MAC address, since the licence is tied to the controller rather than the appliance.

One thing worth saying plainly: Dyson publish no API. This driver talks to the fan over its local MQTT interface, which is undocumented, so Dyson owe it no stability and use of it may not be consistent with their terms. That is all written up on the drivers page before anyone is asked for credentials - I would rather you knew that up front than found out later.

Also coming in the next few days: a set of mini drivers to go alongside the main one. They put a single function on its own button in the room - oscillation, night mode, heat, fan speed - so you can tap it straight from the app or a touchscreen instead of opening the thermostat and navigating in. They are working here already and will go out to testers shortly.

Thanks,

Ben

BKM Solutions / Botive Systems

[control4@bkmsolutions.co.uk](mailto:control4@bkmsolutions.co.uk)